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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Jun 3, 2024 17:31:59 GMT -6
eyebytwomuchgeer , thanks for that…also, I see AML offers assembly at a reasonable fee. One thing about Colin/AML's kits that has always driven me absolute batcrap, is that they send pre-trimmed/pre-bent resistors. So you have to stuff several dozen of them onto a small pcb using putty/painter tape to keep them in place when you flip the board to solder. That's always been a head scratcher for me. The pre-trimmed components from AML was certainly something I had to adjust to, but after an hour or so, you get into a rhythm. I don’t think it’s better or worse than, say, the CAPI method. The AML kits are pre-sorted, so that saves some time. I still check every component, at least visually if not on a multimeter. In any case, I will say that having the pre-trimmed components can help when you’re really putting a lot of pieces really close together, as it seems to reduce solder bridges at unwanted places. If you’re not careful, the full-length components can leave too much overhang that can create unwanted bridges if you’re a bit careless. At least with the AML 1084, if you’re not constantly building perfect API-style opamps (for instance), you’re going to have a lot of trouble as there’s just so many parts in similarity tight quarters. Colin warned me that the 1084s are no joke and that any mishaps would be my problem. I didn’t listen. I had one issue on a build and spent days figuring out the issue. The kits are somewhat trivial (but very time-consuming) if you can solder and have a plan. Well… trivial relative to troubleshooting. If you’re not sure how to trace a circuit and read a circuit diagram, you’re going to be really screwed if you make a mistake. I’m guessing DIYRE still offers paid troubleshooting help. That’s a giant help if you’re thinking of doing DIY but don’t have the chops to troubleshoot. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 5, 2024 12:24:14 GMT -6
This pre order is now open! I think still. Probably not last long is my guess.
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Post by audiomaintenance on Jun 6, 2024 5:29:50 GMT -6
eyebytwomuchgeer , thanks for that…also, I see AML offers assembly at a reasonable fee. One thing about Colin/AML's kits that has always driven me absolute batcrap, is that they send pre-trimmed/pre-bent resistors. So you have to stuff several dozen of them onto a small pcb using putty/painter tape to keep them in place when you flip the board to solder. That's always been a head scratcher for me. Just use an assembly jig... the time saving is huge....  or even a piece of soft foam glued to piece of wood... lay it on top, hold together and flip over. Colin Audio Maintenance Limited |
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2024 10:36:44 GMT -6
This appears to be the 1290 preamp. The 1073 is an EQ module. |
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Post by winetree on Jun 6, 2024 14:15:32 GMT -6
A 1290 preamp is a 2 stage amp.
This is the 3 stage preamp out of a 1073 minus the E.Q.
I built a few DIY 1073 preamps a few years ago and the cost for all the parts was around $750 - $1000. each.
If you have the skill, these are a bargain.
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Post by spacecowboy on Jun 6, 2024 15:13:20 GMT -6
The 1272 is the two stage. The 1290 is the full preamp. Technically I think the 1290 never had the LO1166 output but had the T1310 inductor as a collector load of the output transistor and an unbalanced output.
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Post by chipbuttie on Jun 6, 2024 17:55:57 GMT -6
This appears to be the 1290 preamp. The 1073 is an EQ module. They address this in the video but said they will still call it 1073 as that’s how most people refer to the preamp. Even AMS Neve still call it a 1073 when it’s just the preamp |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 27, 2024 20:29:38 GMT -6
Got my kit. See when I can get it built.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2024 22:52:59 GMT -6
I’m really surprised the 51x box’s didn’t catch on, I guess it made way too much sense and would’ve given everybody a lot more quality in products like neve and twin servos at a lower price that run on 24v rails, it costs money and real estate to up voltage
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 30, 2024 23:24:35 GMT -6
Got mine built. need to calibrate and test it on something. NOt sure what, don't have anything in the works.. I’m really surprised the 51x box’s didn’t catch on, I guess it made way too much sense and would’ve given everybody a lot more quality in products like neve and twin servos at a lower price that run on 24v rails, it costs money and real estate to up voltage It wasn't marketed well. Was too DIY to be a main stream thing. DIY market came up with it and propped it up for a while then even the ones that were for it stopped supporting it. So who knows. Was too confusing for customers i know is what CAPI dropped it. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 31, 2024 9:48:30 GMT -6
Got mine built. need to calibrate and test it on something. NOt sure what, don't have anything in the works.. I’m really surprised the 51x box’s didn’t catch on, I guess it made way too much sense and would’ve given everybody a lot more quality in products like neve and twin servos at a lower price that run on 24v rails, it costs money and real estate to up voltage It wasn't marketed well. Was too DIY to be a main stream thing. DIY market came up with it and propped it up for a while then even the ones that were for it stopped supporting it. So who knows. Was too confusing for customers i know is what CAPI dropped it. The 51x was brilliant, but it was never going to be VPR approved & since it was DIY you were never going to see it in stores. Plus with the +- rails you had access to 30+ volts so a Neve wasn’t a problem if you slapped a regulator or voltage multiplier on the module. We are no longer in the era of every other manufacturer offering their own modular format , 500 is the default standard, it may not be the best but at least we have a standard! |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 31, 2024 16:54:22 GMT -6
there are still a few 51x compliant 24v kits out there, silent arts makes one and i believe dons classics has one, maybe collin at aml also?
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Post by russellcreekps on Jul 31, 2024 17:28:32 GMT -6
Very nice looking unit. Video has great details. Wish you could order it assembled. This. And wish someone would do a 1U instead of 500 series. I think AML does one but without a faceplate, weird. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 31, 2024 17:35:18 GMT -6
Very nice looking unit. Video has great details. Wish you could order it assembled. This. And wish someone would do a 1U instead of 500 series. I think AML does one but without a faceplate, weird. I bet once the initial rush ends they will offer it as a built option. They do that for other units. Or I'll build it for you. Not too hard of a build at all. Think I spent about 4-5 hours on it going slow? |
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Post by russellcreekps on Jul 31, 2024 17:37:39 GMT -6
Blackdawg do you mean you machine the face plates for the AML 1U version? Or you build these kits in general?
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 31, 2024 21:55:33 GMT -6
Blackdawg do you mean you machine the face plates for the AML 1U version? Or you build these kits in general? no no. I'd build the 500 kits. The front panel for the AML is availble from others though. I think Don Classics has a knob and faceplate kit for it. And then you get a case from other places. |
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Post by anders on Jul 31, 2024 22:30:04 GMT -6
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Post by russellcreekps on Aug 1, 2024 19:19:42 GMT -6
Thanks both!
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 2, 2024 20:16:19 GMT -6
Impressive attention to detail on this thing, Peterson is obsessed in the best way if you ask me
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Post by nick8801 on Aug 13, 2024 16:44:52 GMT -6
Any updates on this kit? Has anyone built/tried one?
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 13, 2024 20:57:05 GMT -6
I have one. Just haven't used it. Don't have a session that I will try it for in a while.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 13, 2024 21:17:07 GMT -6
Any updates on this kit? Has anyone built/tried one? JMO, As a diy obsessed fella myself with a metric shit ton of projects under my belt, i can tell you with just watching that video that you won't find a better replica/version of that pre, his build documentation is insanely detailed and he has a fix it program if you can't get it done yourself |
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Post by nick8801 on Aug 14, 2024 5:01:22 GMT -6
Any updates on this kit? Has anyone built/tried one? JMO, As a diy obsessed fella myself with a metric shit ton of projects under my belt, i can tell you with just watching that video that you won't find a better replica/version of that pre, his build documentation is insanely detailed and he has a fix it program if you can't get it done yourself I’ve built some of his stuff before. Just kinda curious how it stacks up sonically to some of the other 73’s out there. I’m sure it sounds killer. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 30, 2024 4:54:11 GMT -6
This is not the greatest video, but it does feature a shoot out between the DIYRE 1073 and the AMS Neve 1073 80 series. You have to go to 17 mins or so in. The rest of the video is him taking apart and testing the unit to make sure he put it together correctly, which is kind of funny at moments.
Sonically, it seems to feel like most 500 series Neve units. It sounds good, but light by comparison. Although, if you watch the whole video you may question if he actually put it together properly. lol.
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Post by copperx on Aug 30, 2024 8:13:05 GMT -6
Light by comparison seems about right. Sounds similar to an AML IMHO.
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