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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 28, 2015 21:08:12 GMT -6
Joel and I were talking about "Bittersweet Symphony" and "The Last Time" - the Rolling Stones won the case...Here's an orchestra arrangement from 1965 vs. Bittersweet Symphony...Yikes...
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Post by yotonic on Jan 29, 2015 6:23:43 GMT -6
"Originally, The Verve had negotiated a licence to use a five-note sample from the Oldham recording, but former Stones manager Allen Klein (who owned the copyrights to the band’s pre-1970 songs) claimed that The Verve broke the agreement and used a larger portion. Despite its original lyrics and string intro (by Wil Malone & Ashcroft), the music of "Bitter Sweet Symphony" was sampled from the Oldham track, which led to a lawsuit with ABKCO Records, Klein's holding company, and eventually settled out of court. The Verve relinquished all of their royalties to Klein, owner of ABKCO Records, whilst songwriting credits were changed to Jagger/Richards/Ashcroft.
The Verve bassist Simon Jones said, "We were told it was going to be a 50/50 split, and then they saw how well the record was doing. They rung up and said we want 100 percent or take it out of the shops, you don't have much choice."
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2015 12:57:16 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 29, 2015 14:21:03 GMT -6
Joel and I were talking about "Bittersweet Symphony" and "The Last Time" - the Rolling Stones won the case...Here's an orchestra arrangement from 1965 vs. Bittersweet Symphony...Yikes... that about sums it up lol |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2015 15:24:35 GMT -6
Probably the way it should've been handled. I had a friend call me once to tell me he had a song coming out on a record that he realized was all over one of mine that he really liked. He said if it were to be a single he would make it right. It was definitely all over it...and yeah...I was bummed (I had pitched my version multiple times to the artist and producer...and honestly, I truthfully think it's better) - but I appreciated his candor. The record barely sold anything and the song was never singled...so, problem solved and relationship maintained. I did make a side by side comparison file, though  |
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Post by nice touch on Jan 29, 2015 15:59:47 GMT -6
A STATEMENT FROM TOM PETTY
"About the Sam Smith thing. Let me say I have never had any hard feelings toward Sam. All my years of songwriting have shown me these things can happen. Most times you catch it before it gets out the studio door but in this case it got by. Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament and we easily came to an agreement. The word lawsuit was never even said and was never my intention. And no more was to be said about it. How it got out to the press is beyond Sam or myself. Sam did the right thing and I have thought no more about this. A musical accident no more no less. In these times we live in this is hardly news. I wish Sam all the best for his ongoing career. Peace and love to all."
Tom Petty
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2015 16:06:44 GMT -6
Ruh Roh
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