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Post by theshea on Dec 24, 2019 1:46:54 GMT -6
only guitar wiith p90 i owned was a epi casino. sold it as it was to dull sounding. now i am into p90 again, mainly since i saw and HEARD (!) a epiphone coronet here:
love the color and the sound from 5:30 on!
now, these epi coronets are to expensive and since its just a mahagony body and a p90, could i buy one of the cheap gibson les paul junior and be almost there with the sound? anyone own a lp jr?
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 24, 2019 12:23:15 GMT -6
P90s are awesome. I actually think the Gibson ones are decent. Lots of great winders but I chose Wolfetone for a Tele style mahogany thin line build I did a few years back.
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 24, 2019 13:56:35 GMT -6
only guitar wiith p90 i owned was a epi casino. sold it as it was to dull sounding. now i am into p90 again, mainly since i saw and HEARD (!) a epiphone coronet here: love the color and the sound from 5:30 on! now, these epi coronets are to expensive and since its just a mahagony body and a p90, could i buy one of the cheap gibson les paul junior and be almost there with the sound? anyone own a lp jr? I have an early oughties LP Special (2 pickup double cut Junior) Its P-90s are pretty good but not as good as the Kalamazoo made ones from the '50s and early/mid '60s*. I also have an Epi '57 LP Jr reissue, which was a nice guitar except for the horrid P-100 pickup (Gibson's attempt at a stacked humbucking P-90). I replaced the P-100 with a Lindy Fralin P-90 with 5% overwind and I would put the sound of that guitar up against any vintage P-90 equipped instrument. I've compared it to old Juniors, a real '56 gold top and a number of others, Gibson and otherwise. The Fralin is a WINNER. And Lindy will wind the pickup to your specs, give a choice of magnets, ets, to get it just like the P-90 of your dreams.
BTW, I love those old Epi Coronets, have since I started playing back when they were new. IIRC that's the model that Steve Marriot used with Humble Pie. The only problem with the Coronet (and other Epis in that line) is that the very thin body is quite fragile.
* QC on Gibson's P-90s started getting a bit dodgy around '66.
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Post by dmo on Dec 24, 2019 21:00:51 GMT -6
My first electric ( around 1963?) was an early 60's single P90 SG, don't recall a lot tone wise as I was just a novice playing standards from Mel Bay books). Traded for a non Gibson semi hollow body 335 type for a while but by junior year HS wanted to rock - and at that point parents said if I wanted another guitar I had to buy it myself. My ear was more LP than strat at that point - so ended up with my first self purchased guitar, a 1968 p90 equipped LP. Still own it - its a great ( and different) tone than Humbuckers, was my number 1 for about 20 years. Too long ago to really compare sounds, but I think an SG with p90s should get you close to the clips tone wise.
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 24, 2019 21:35:00 GMT -6
My first electric ( around 1963?) was an early 60's single P90 SG, don't recall a lot tone wise as I was just a novice playing standards from Mel Bay books). Traded for a non Gibson semi hollow body 335 type for a while but by junior year HS wanted to rock - and at that point parents said if I wanted another guitar I had to buy it myself. My ear was more LP than strat at that point - so ended up with my first self purchased guitar, a 1968 p90 equipped LP. Still own it - its a great ( and different) tone than Humbuckers, was my number 1 for about 20 years. Too long ago to really compare sounds, but I think an SG with p90s should get you close to the clips tone wise. If it was a '63 or earlier it was actually an SG Les Paul. There are differences, primarily at the neck joint. The LP version has all frets clear of the body, while the straight SG version ('64 and later) had a block extension of the body running up to the 18th fret. The LP version is much more fragile but also plays a lot better. I used to have a '63, one of my favorite guitars ever. Had to sell it for rent in the early '80s, wonder if the guy I sold it to (who friended me a couple years ago on Farcebook) would be willing to honor our buy-back agreement at this late date?
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Post by dmo on Dec 24, 2019 22:38:39 GMT -6
Too long ago to clearly remember, it was standard cherry finish and I'm pretty sure it didn't have the LP logo on headstock, but I was about 10 and didn't know jack about guitars then. I did sell my LP to a friend but also with buy back discussion - he had it most of my first 2 o'seas tours instead of it going into storage - I bought it back, maybe your friend will honor your agreement as well
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Post by theshea on Dec 25, 2019 3:27:39 GMT -6
ok, i think i will go sg/lp jr hunting! than i will go p90 hunting! thanks for the pickup tipp eppstein.
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Post by jakeboy on Jan 9, 2020 9:22:59 GMT -6
Our own achase4u IS Rumpelstiltskin Pickups and he winds great ones to your specs. Just sayin’...
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Post by svart on Jan 11, 2020 13:23:46 GMT -6
I cut some of the higher end Wilkinson P90's into a Jay Turser goldtop LP that I bought for 75$ because I wanted to play around with winding and unwinding P90's for tone.
I found that the Wilkinson pickups sounded pretty good on their own with this body and I never really felt like messing around afterwards. The guitar is actually a good player's guitar too, although the name gets a lot of derision online even though it's way better made than my Epiphone LP.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 30, 2020 18:33:00 GMT -6
I have an Agile AD-201 with two Mojotone Quiet Coil P90s, great guitar, love it. Like it better than the normal les pauls for my taste. More raw. Had to go with the noiseless pickups. Pickup hum is not something I love, and certain P90s have a bad case of it, since they are wound so hot. The Mojotones are great. Had to have two pickups too. One pickup guitars don't work for me.
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Post by notneeson on Jul 30, 2020 22:04:53 GMT -6
I have Phat Cat in the neck of my tele and it can sound pretty stellar with my Bandmaster way up around 5 or 6 or so.
Sometimes I think about putting a great humbucker in that spot though, as I don’t have anything of that nature despite owning several electric guitars.
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Post by dmo on Aug 1, 2020 20:58:49 GMT -6
Decided to pull the LP out and post a pic of my P90 guitar. If I had been able to predict the future I would have ignored the green patina developing on the edges but I was young and thought I'd like a natural finish look so stripped the top around 1977-78. Oh well, still plays great and sounds fantastic. Other than finish, only mods are replacement tuners (the originals always tended to slip), remove pickguard, pickup covers and my friend who maintained possession during my first few O'seas tours replaced the bridge. So here is my 1968 Gold Top LP (first guitar I bought with my own money). I'll try to post some audio clips as soon as I'm more mobile (crutches suck)
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Post by theshea on Aug 7, 2020 12:58:52 GMT -6
heard epiphone will reissue the wilshire with p90‘s. i am gonna try those as soon as i spot one in a shop!
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 7, 2020 14:16:30 GMT -6
heard epiphone will reissue the wilshire with p99‘s. i am gonna try those as soon as i spot one in a shop! What is a "P99" I've never heard of it and considerable Googling turns up nothing. Are you sure you don't mean a P-100? If so, take it from me, they're terrible - flat and dead sounding.
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Post by theshea on Aug 7, 2020 14:42:11 GMT -6
heard epiphone will reissue the wilshire with p99‘s. i am gonna try those as soon as i spot one in a shop! What is a "P99" I've never heard of it and considerable Googling turns up nothing. Are you sure you don't mean a P-100? If so, take it from me, they're terrible - flat and dead sounding. sorry, that was a typo: i meant „p90“. i edited my post.
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Post by theshea on Dec 19, 2020 2:34:27 GMT -6
bit of patience paid off. i just bought and received a new epiphone coronet 2020 model and finally got my p90 sound guitar for 360€. gotta say it sounds surprisingly good and nothing wrong with the build quality considering the money. body is two piece mahagony with very thick glossy finish. neck is rather thick but feels good. very neckheavy although. i am gonna adjust my amp sound to the original p90 pickups and see if i like it over a period of time. after raising the poles of the p90‘s they do sound good. bite is there, they sound clear and raw: yes, they rock! i am still gonna wait around and see if now those silly prices of the vintage coronets will fall under 2000€.
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Post by theshea on Dec 19, 2020 8:20:03 GMT -6
Attachment DeletedI like black&white guitars but also a colorful soundpalette ;-) my new epi coronet 2020 in good company.
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Post by Ward on Dec 20, 2020 9:49:11 GMT -6
P90s are awesome. I actually think the Gibson ones are decent. Lots of great winders but I chose Wolfetone for a Tele style mahogany thin line build I did a few years back. Cheers, Geoff NOISELESS: the 1999 (yes, specifically that year. don't ask me why I've owned so many, been such a nerd) Gibson P100s have the EXACT tone of the P90 in my 1957 Les Paul Junior, without the noise! Try to find some. Edit: punctuation matters
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 21, 2020 16:58:45 GMT -6
only guitar wiith p90 i owned was a epi casino. sold it as it was to dull sounding. now i am into p90 again, mainly since i saw and HEARD (!) a epiphone coronet here: love the color and the sound from 5:30 on! now, these epi coronets are to expensive and since its just a mahagony body and a p90, could i buy one of the cheap gibson les paul junior and be almost there with the sound? anyone own a lp jr? The Epi P-90s aren't very good. Replace with Fralin, it's like magic!
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 21, 2020 17:05:14 GMT -6
P90s are awesome. I actually think the Gibson ones are decent. Lots of great winders but I chose Wolfetone for a Tele style mahogany thin line build I did a few years back. Cheers, Geoff NOISELESS: the 1999 (yes, specifically that year. don't ask me why I've owned so many, been such a nerd) Gibson P100s have the EXACT tone of the P90 in my 1957 Les Paul Junior, without the noise! Try to find some. Edit: punctuation mattersP-100s SUCK DOG BALLS and don't even do it very well, according to the dog.
I replaced the exacreable P-100 on my Epi '57 Jr RI with a real Fralin P-100 and it was like night and day. I curreently also have a John Lennon EJ-160 and the pickup is utterly terrible. Fralin coming soon.
If you thnk Epi P-100s sound even barely acceptible you need your ears cleaned. Or You guitar had a pickup swap and nobody told you.
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Post by Ward on Dec 21, 2020 19:37:33 GMT -6
NOISELESS: the 1999 (yes, specifically that year. don't ask me why I've owned so many, been such a nerd) Gibson P100s have the EXACT tone of the P90 in my 1957 Les Paul Junior, without the noise! Try to find some. Edit: punctuation mattersP-100s SUCK DOG BALLS and don't even do it very well, according to the dog. I replaced the exacreable P-100 on my Epi '57 Jr RI with a real Fralin P-100 and it was like night and day. I curreently also have a John Lennon EJ-160 and the pickup is utterly terrible. Fralin coming soon. If you thnk Epi P-100s sound even barely acceptible you need your ears cleaned. Or You guitar had a pickup swap and nobody told you.
I have a 1999 Gibson Les Paul special with stock Gibson P100s. It was one of 100 made for the Hard Rock cafe. It is not an EPI. Don't know how thin the air is you're pulling that out of, but no connection to Epiphone. And I have the following with P90s 1970 Les Paul Standard 1957 Les Paul Junior 1959 Les Paul Junior 1983 Les Paul Spirit I could be deaf, though.
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