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Post by Ned Ward on Sept 1, 2020 13:50:56 GMT -6
I have an original Ibanez AD9 delay I need to use for a quick gig Saturday - only two pedals vs. my pedalboard. Back when the AD9 was on my pedalboard, I took off the PVC rubber pad on the bottom to get better adhesion for the velcro, but now that it will be on the floor, need to put it back on.
Any suggestions on what to use? Don't want to use something that will melt 35 year old PVC...
thanks!
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 5, 2020 13:33:09 GMT -6
I have an original Ibanez AD9 delay I need to use for a quick gig Saturday - only two pedals vs. my pedalboard. Back when the AD9 was on my pedalboard, I took off the PVC rubber pad on the bottom to get better adhesion for the velcro, but now that it will be on the floor, need to put it back on. Any suggestions on what to use? Don't want to use something that will melt 35 year old PVC... thanks! Pliobond contact cement. An OEM version is included in JBL recone kits. Shake well before using.
Second choise would be DAP Weldwood contact cement, which is what we used to adhere Tolex to cabinets.
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Post by Ned Ward on Sept 5, 2020 13:41:22 GMT -6
Appreciate it John - thanks and have a good long weekend.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 6, 2020 10:13:15 GMT -6
I would use the 3M double sided adhesive sheet/tape stuff. It comes in an office paper size sheet, sticky on both sides, very thin and not going to ruin any surfaces, can be removed later.
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Post by Ward on Sept 7, 2020 9:45:28 GMT -6
I would use the 3M double sided adhesive sheet/tape stuff. It comes in an office paper size sheet, sticky on both sides, very thin and not going to ruin any surfaces, can be removed later. If, by chance, just say it might happen . . . you leave the pickguard on for 10 years. Well then, there's a problem with double-sided tape. It dissolves. And not just itself. Savvy?
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Post by Guitar on Sept 7, 2020 9:53:26 GMT -6
I would use the 3M double sided adhesive sheet/tape stuff. It comes in an office paper size sheet, sticky on both sides, very thin and not going to ruin any surfaces, can be removed later. If, by chance, just say it might happen . . . you leave the pickguard on for 10 years. Well then, there's a problem with double-sided tape. It dissolves. And not just itself. Savvy? Interesting. What would you use for a guitar pickguard?
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Post by Ward on Sept 8, 2020 5:48:50 GMT -6
If, by chance, just say it might happen . . . you leave the pickguard on for 10 years. Well then, there's a problem with double-sided tape. It dissolves. And not just itself. Savvy? Interesting. What would you use for a guitar pickguard? A glue that dries crystalline. If the two surfaces are completely flat, good old 'school glue' can work. Carpenter's glue works too. Ask www.stew-mac.com !
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 8, 2020 13:48:00 GMT -6
I'd like to point out that the original question concerned rubber mats under pedals, not guitar pick guards. They are entirely different materials in entirely different situations, and should not use the same types of adhesive. Guitar pickguards have been known to shrink, cracking the guitar top. For this reason crystalline glues may not always be the best choice. I would check with Stew-Mac or a similar authority in such cases.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 8, 2020 14:18:14 GMT -6
I saw someone said they could get the 3M tape off with some Mineral Spirits.
Yep, for a flat piece of aluminum under a pedal, I wouldn't give any damns.
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 9, 2020 5:28:44 GMT -6
I saw someone said they could get the 3M tape off with some Mineral Spirits. Yep, for a flat piece of aluminum under a pedal, I wouldn't give any damns. Except that I wouldn't trust 3M (or any other doublestick tape) for such use in anything but a temporary application.
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Post by Ned Ward on Sept 9, 2020 10:12:51 GMT -6
Thanks all and appreciate the input. Didn't have time before the gig to re-attach, but just had my 2 pedals on top of the amp.
While it certainly didn't sound like my Fenders or Dr. Z, plugging a Tele into a Keeley-modded TS9 and then the AD9 into a Roland KC500 keyboard amp wasn't as horrible as I was expecting... for a garage show to folks on the sidewalk, it was fine and meant I didn't have to bring the keyboard amp and a guitar amp. And the KC500, while not going to fill a club, was serviceable as a vocal PA. More about bring and play with what you got..
Singing through a mask sucks though - was happy the band was all 8 feet from each other and fans were another 12 feet.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 9, 2020 10:46:59 GMT -6
Thanks all and appreciate the input. Didn't have time before the gig to re-attach, but just had my 2 pedals on top of the amp. While it certainly didn't sound like my Fenders or Dr. Z, plugging a Tele into a Keeley-modded TS9 and then the AD9 into a Roland KC500 keyboard amp wasn't as horrible as I was expecting... for a garage show to folks on the sidewalk, it was fine and meant I didn't have to bring the keyboard amp and a guitar amp. And the KC500, while not going to fill a club, was serviceable as a vocal PA. More about bring and play with what you got.. Singing through a mask sucks though - was happy the band was all 8 feet from each other and fans were another 12 feet. I had a 5 minute jam with a family member yesterday. That's about the most I can get out of that person. But it felt really good to share that creativity. Saw a front yard concert in my area a couple days ago, great idea for something to do in this current situation. I bet that was really satisfying. I have a close friend who is in three bands right now. They practice with distance and masks I think. Just proves that we're not totally lost right now. In the future you may want to order some sticky little circle or square "feet" that you can stick on the bottom of any piece of gear. I use those when I'm not in velcro mode, keep a few in a drawer. There is also the option of adhesive foam in a roll. You can cut off a rectangle of it. Not too expensive. I use this on my DI builds. I was using staircase grip rubbers for a while but I think I prefer the soft foam sheet.
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