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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 6, 2014 21:28:21 GMT -6
The majority of their hits were slow to mids...they defied genres (even in the 70's and 80's). Obviously, this could go for any number of artists, but The Eagles are interesting to me. Would they be critical darlings that sell 14,000 records? Or would they be Mumford and Sons...I don't know...
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 6, 2014 23:07:07 GMT -6
Robin Thicke is a superstar, i need say nothing more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 0:52:05 GMT -6
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Post by matt on Apr 7, 2014 8:37:44 GMT -6
Their first album features
Take It Easy Witchy Woman Peaceful Easy Feeling
but also has
Take The Devil Earlybird Tryin'
I wonder if the "less accessible" songs would make an album these days, particularly for an artist starting out. But they were under the care of David Geffen and his Asylum Records label. Perhaps that is what's missing these days: labels and management who let artists be artists and support the release of "experimental" music along with the hits.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 7, 2014 8:57:30 GMT -6
Of course, didn't the eagles and Geffen have a big falling out later? Maybe that was after he sold it.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 7, 2014 9:03:31 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 7, 2014 10:40:45 GMT -6
ya see, there are talented, thoughtful, cultured people left in the USA...yaay!
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Post by formatcyes on Apr 7, 2014 16:05:47 GMT -6
Its an interesting question I think probably not their sound and songs fit their era (or did their music contribute to the era?? which means you cannot separate) But I think their music is 60/70's. Making it now is so tough I don't think a lot of ex massive groups would have a chance now. Pink floyd was funded for years by a record lable before the payoff wouldent happen now which is so sad. One of the only groups I think would be ok is Queen I don't think it matters what era you dropped them in Freddy was always going to be a star..
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 7, 2014 18:50:08 GMT -6
I don't really mean with the same songs the same way...Maybe adjusted for modern trends and production while keeping the same feel and theme. Although, I'm a huge, huge fan and have been SO influenced by them...It wouldn't bother me if we went back to Yacht Rock (adjusting for modern trends)...One of my favorite records and artists of the year has been Jason Isbell's "Southeastern"...I think he IS the modern equivalent...kind of if the Eagles, Steve Earle and Edgar Allen Poe had a baby. His song "Super 8 Motel" sound like it was ripped out of the Eagles' set list...and I freaking love it.
Anyway, he's the biggest selling Alternative Country act out there and I would be shocked if he's hit 150K albums. It's just crazy to me. That song "Elephant" is a masterpiece.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 19:51:40 GMT -6
it sounds so weird that you can hear the drum room so much. it kinda cheapens it to me, make it sound unprofessionally done, compared to stuff done by Justin Niebank in my opinion.
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Post by formatcyes on Apr 7, 2014 20:16:31 GMT -6
Jason as a similar feel to the eagles. I am an eagles fan but I still think no they woulden't make it now altho I woulden't have picked Munford and sons either. The market is so saturated with supper talented people been listening to Billy Talent lately awsome artist he will be lucky to sell 150K also. The only groups "making" it big seem to be 1 direction type and that's just not right but it is what it is. I was trying to think of bands that have become house hold names in the last 5 years like say ZZ top. None spring to mind make's me
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 7, 2014 21:17:31 GMT -6
it sounds so weird that you can hear the drum room so much. it kinda cheapens it to me, make it sound unprofessionally done, compared to stuff done by Justin Niebank in my opinion. drum rooms can be great, the strange thing to me, is they all sound like they're playing in different parts of a house or something. cool tune though.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 7, 2014 21:32:54 GMT -6
it sounds so weird that you can hear the drum room so much. it kinda cheapens it to me, make it sound unprofessionally done, compared to stuff done by Justin Niebank in my opinion. I think thats what they were going for...raw... This song just really reminds me of a mid Eagles Glen Fry song...
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Post by matt on Apr 7, 2014 23:11:48 GMT -6
Of course, didn't the eagles and Geffen have a big falling out later? Maybe that was after he sold it. That happened long after they were superstars. As the Geffen video highlights, early on he was an artist's best friend. I can't imagine that happening in 2014.
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Post by matt on Apr 7, 2014 23:21:40 GMT -6
Jason as a similar feel to the eagles. I am an eagles fan but I still think no they woulden't make it now altho I woulden't have picked Munford and sons either. The market is so saturated with supper talented people been listening to Billy Talent lately awsome artist he will be lucky to sell 150K also. The only groups "making" it big seem to be 1 direction type and that's just not right but it is what it is. I was trying to think of bands that have become house hold names in the last 5 years like say ZZ top. None spring to mind make's me ZZ destroyed in the early days; their live shows prior to 1976 are legendary. I saw them in '75 and they were so hot/tight, and Gibbins was on fire. His live guitar sound was unbelievable. This was before the Expandora pedal ruined his sound, IMHO. Their popularity was word-of-mouth,as it was in those days. I don't think bands these days have the freedom of acts from the '70s like ZZ or Zeppelin or The Eagles, or any number of bands you can name from that era.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2014 0:29:16 GMT -6
offtopic: Can we all give a slow clap for JK's new avatar?
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Post by formatcyes on Apr 8, 2014 0:37:49 GMT -6
Hi Sta-level thief 1975 I was still learning where poo-poo goes. Love zz top 70's to early 80's was the golden age for rock IMO. We have all the tools now but there is disconnect with no truly great acts coming onto the seen.
Your signature about a grudge is good. I have a mate that says he is to lazy to hold a grudge.
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Post by formatcyes on Apr 8, 2014 0:40:08 GMT -6
offtopic: Can we all give a slow clap for JK's new avatar? Is it me or is he holding two giant twinkie's mmmm twinkie.
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Post by henge on Apr 8, 2014 4:12:14 GMT -6
Yup I think they would if they wrote the same material ( why wouldn't they ) treated with today's sound. Sure there are alot more people saturating but the percentage of quality songs remains the same imo. Very few can write the amount of quality that that band did imo.
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Post by levon on Apr 8, 2014 6:07:56 GMT -6
I love The Eagles but Mr. Frey and Mr. Henley went down a notch or five on my respect scale after I became aware of their ruthlessness. I read the book by Don Felder and it confirmed what I learned before. Still, I like and respect them as musicians and songwriters but I wouldn't wanna have to deal with them on a business level.
I guess if you had someone as driven(to put it politely)as David Geffen looking after you, you could still make it today with that kind of music. The problem is that there are no more people like him in the industry and record companies are after a quick buck instead of developing artists long-term. And as long as there is American Idol et al, there's no shortage of eager victims for this year's bottom line. So the industry's business concept seems to work. It just doesn't work for artists anymore.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 8, 2014 22:21:17 GMT -6
offtopic: Can we all give a slow clap for JK's new avatar? Thank you, thank you very much...I'll probably go back to Faulkner...just thought I would be Twinkie Moses for a while.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Apr 19, 2014 13:59:11 GMT -6
Anyway, he's the biggest selling Alternative Country act out there and I would be shocked if he's hit 150K albums. It's just crazy to me. That song "Elephant" is a masterpiece. Nobody buys records these days. Music is worthless. Not that I think music is worthless or any of you reading this thinks it's worthless but we are in a minority not even worth counting. Would the Eagles make it today? No. I really don't think so. They have no muscles to show. None of them have a youthful Brad Pitt face. Their sound wouldn't matter because people listen to music today with their eyes. My daughter is getting ready to turn 17. The only reason she buys music is for the album art that you can't get unless you do buy it. People get their music today off You Tube mostly. Then Spotify and Pandora and on and on. It's a dying art and if something drastic isn't done soon, it could be done all together because real talent can't make a living at it as a recording artist. Perhaps some can eakk out a living playing live but thats for the local crowds and barely promoted "mini tours" which is what Isbell and so many other uber talented musicians are doing now. I may start a thread about this because I have been thinking about it a lot lately. But if all the record labels, and I mean ALL of them would refuse to release anything in digital download, there might be hope to recoup some of the money. It would take an across the board refusal. Just one or two doing it wouldn't work. They almost have to form a union. Hard copy CD release only. Then sue the hell out of You Tube or any other internet site playing their music without royalties. Like radio in the old days. I don't know. But something has got to be done or this next generation won't give a shit about making music. Then it will die.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 17:16:47 GMT -6
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Post by formatcyes on Apr 19, 2014 23:37:17 GMT -6
I laughed then cried now I don't know what to think. Nooooo Love these quotes but. “Sick innit?” one clubber exclaimed when asked about the night. “The technicality of the mixing was such that I hardly noticed a transition for the whole of the set.” “Brilliant,” flatly stated another partier, “rarely do you see a DJ put in that much variety and thought from the warm up to peak time and come down. A masterclass in both technical ability and musical knowledge. So refreshing to see a DJ not simply press play but take the crowd on a journey start to finish.”
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