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Post by Johnkenn on May 27, 2014 17:27:12 GMT -6
Had a guy come by for some overdubs today...He brought a ton of stuff, but for the first half we just ran through my AC15 out of sheer laziness - and it sounded pretty good. Then we switched to his Silvertone head into an old Deluxe with a Celestion Gold. Holy crap. I want a Silvertone. Apparently this one had been modded but it was just beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 17:54:20 GMT -6
*smacks your hand* no john. No. No more gear
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Post by tonycamphd on May 27, 2014 18:08:25 GMT -6
Johnkenn like this? 8) it's a 1964 in almost perfect shape, original sylvania tubes, it's reserved for recording only, and yes it sounds awesome, if you can find a good deal on one GET IT. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Johnkenn on May 27, 2014 18:19:37 GMT -6
Yeah - it's gone now...but I think that was it...Nice!
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Post by henge on May 28, 2014 18:15:33 GMT -6
Johnkenn like this? 8) it's a 1960 in almost perfect shape, original sylvania tubes, it's reserved for recording only, and yes it sounds awesome, if you can find a good deal on one GET IT. That is GORGEOUS!! Must be creamy. |
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Post by tonycamphd on May 28, 2014 18:27:40 GMT -6
Johnkenn like this? 8) it's a 1960 in almost perfect shape, original sylvania tubes, it's reserved for recording only, and yes it sounds awesome, if you can find a good deal on one GET IT. That is GORGEOUS!! Must be creamy. a hot bridge pickup in a good tele, with a ribbon mic out front is really something, you can see in the pic i have a jumper across channels, and all knobs to 11, it reacts dynamically to your playing, pick light and it's just sweet, hit it hard and boom! van halen lol |
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Post by henge on May 28, 2014 18:30:55 GMT -6
That is GORGEOUS!! Must be creamy. a hot bridge pickup in a good tele, with a ribbon mic out front is really something, you can see in the pic i have a jumper across channels, and all knobs to 11, it reacts dynamically to your playing, pick light and it's just sweet, hit it hard and boom! van halen lol All knobs on 11!! Love it. |
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Post by svart on Jun 2, 2014 18:24:17 GMT -6
Funny, i hadn't seen this thread, but i just picked one of those up on eBay for real cheap. Needs to be fixed though.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 2, 2014 19:31:15 GMT -6
How cheap?
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Post by svart on Jun 2, 2014 20:02:17 GMT -6
250$ shipped
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Post by svart on Jun 2, 2014 21:53:54 GMT -6
Is that a good price? I kinda thought so..
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 3, 2014 7:13:29 GMT -6
Damn
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Post by svart on Jun 3, 2014 7:50:02 GMT -6
I guess that means it's good.. But it still needs to be fixed according to the seller. We'll see what's up with it.
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Post by jimwilliams on Jun 3, 2014 10:29:32 GMT -6
I used to blow those things up back in the 1960's. I guess I'm getting older. I loved the tube amp built into the guitar case, an electrical nightmare, but convienient.
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Post by Koln on Jun 3, 2014 17:49:09 GMT -6
I loved the tube amp built into the guitar case, an electrical nightmare, but convienient. Jim funny you say that. I've taken mine out the case 10-12 years ago and put it into a home made 1x12" cabinet to make a combo. Nice little amplifier with a ColorSound Tonebender MKII in front of it. |
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Post by svart on Jun 7, 2014 23:12:46 GMT -6
I got it today. I converted it to 3 wire, put a real bias circuit in it and recapped it. the output is low and distorted so something is wrong. I'll trace through it looking at voltages tomorrow. Apparently there are common problems with the phase inverter and the output transformer.
I swapped all the tubes out with some others and I got the same results so at least it's not the tubes.
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Post by svart on Jun 8, 2014 10:31:58 GMT -6
Fixed. Was a bad resistor feeding the phase inverter tube. Man, this thing is clean for days. I can't get it to distort hardly at all without turning it up to ear splitting loud.
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Post by svart on Jun 11, 2014 7:17:53 GMT -6
Putting a 3 wire cable in it for safety. These things are death machines otherwise..  Just the innards. I ended up replacing all the red dry-lytic caps.  |
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Post by svart on Aug 11, 2014 11:24:21 GMT -6
I gotta say, I'm still loving this amp. Everyone that comes into the studio and wants creamy clean guitar ends up loving this amp far and above the fenders..
They are freaking steals.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 11, 2014 12:49:39 GMT -6
As you change an old part for a new on these, they lose their shit. I have a buddy who's got 25 silvertones of different variety, you leave em as is, or rob from donor peter to pay paul. And yes, they are death machines, how did you apply the 3 wire ground?
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Post by svart on Aug 11, 2014 13:02:55 GMT -6
As you change an old part for a new on these, they lose their shit. I have a buddy who's got 25 silvertones of different variety, you leave em as is, or rob from donor peter to pay paul. And yes, they are death machines, how did you apply the 3 wire ground? I only changed the dry-lytic bulk power caps in the power supplies as they were corroding from previous leakage. I replaced 2 bias resistors that were open (but not burnt). I also added a bias adjustment for modern 6L6GC tubes. The stock biasing was much too out of spec for modern tubes, which is probably why the biasing resistors were bad. I'm leaving everything else as-is unless it breaks. I love the tone too much to monkey with it anymore. For the 3 wire, the power transformer has two primary wires, those go to hot and neutral on the 3 wire cord (with hot going through the power switch and fuse). The earth ground now goes to the chassis. I removed the chassis "grounding" switch as it only coupled the chassis to the "neutral" wire through a capacitor. That was probably the most unsafe part. if the neutral were not there, the chassis would immediately charge up to HOT voltage.. And even then, it could still hold some charge on the chassis. In short: Hot->fuse->switch->transformer primary Neutral->transformer primary Ground->chassis Everything on the secondary side is/was referenced to the chassis as ground, so that all stayed as-is. |
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Post by winetree on Aug 11, 2014 13:43:16 GMT -6
That 2-12" silvertone was my first amp. I remember going down to Sears with our band manager and buying 3 of them with a P.A. system. The amp was the one where the head fit into the speaker box, so you could carry the one unit.
The first thing I did was remove the attached cord from the head to the speaker box and put in 1/4" jacks. Next I put a board in the speaker box to enclose it. I played a lot of High School Dances with that amp.
When the band broke up I bought it from the manager for a $100.00. I later traded it in for my 1965 Black BandMaster which I paid $410.00 for. I mowed a lot of lawns to pay for it. I've still have the Bandmaster.
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Post by svart on Aug 11, 2014 14:01:27 GMT -6
Mine is just the head. I have it going through some parallel V30's. They seem to go together like peas and carrots as they say..
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Post by Guitar on Oct 26, 2014 19:44:09 GMT -6
I'm a 1484 lover, mine finally broke, guess I'll have to take it in again. Magnificent amp. People try to buy it off me at gigs sometimes. I put a bright switch on mine, and now it's perfect.
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Post by svart on Nov 17, 2014 8:56:44 GMT -6
I'm a 1484 lover, mine finally broke, guess I'll have to take it in again. Magnificent amp. People try to buy it off me at gigs sometimes. I put a bright switch on mine, and now it's perfect. Are you technical at all? They are pretty simple to fix. If you haven't, have the tech add a true bias circuit for the output tubes. I think these tend to burn up the bias resistors if there isn't a true bias circuit installed. It seems that older tubes were much colder than tubes today, and putting new tubes in it tends to draw more power through the bias resistors, overheating them. |
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