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Post by ericn on Dec 8, 2022 10:23:41 GMT -6
After 3 days of soldering XLR, TRS and tinning wires for Phoenix Connectors (I found 6 position with strain relief) a friend asked me to build some cables for his HT, all RCA god those things suck!
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Post by EmRR on Dec 8, 2022 12:31:32 GMT -6
1930's consumer table radio connector, amazing it's still in use. No wait......the XLR was also not the best connector option, just the cheaper one.......
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Post by ericn on Dec 8, 2022 13:38:48 GMT -6
1930's consumer table radio connector, amazing it's still in use. No wait......the XLR was also not the best connector option, just the cheaper one....... those old 1930's stamped metal RCA's would have been easier to work with. after testing 3 as intermittent I figured out that I had sand the "gold" plate to take solder there was some kind coating over the gold! XLR was relatively cheap and locking ! at least Cannon & Switchcraft gave us some strain relief, I was lookikin at some exotic Consumer XLRs and no strain relief. $75 plugs for your $10k cable and no strain relief? |
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Post by drbill on Dec 10, 2022 9:56:28 GMT -6
Thankfully I have not soldered an RCA for well over 10 years. Hope to never do one again. At this stage, I've even weaned the studio off of TRS. There's only a few pieces that need an XLR to Try pigtail at this stage. Glad most manufacturers have moved to XLR's.
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Post by ericn on Dec 10, 2022 11:59:17 GMT -6
Thankfully I have not soldered an RCA for well over 10 years. Hope to never do one again. At this stage, I've even weaned the studio off of TRS. There's only a few pieces that need an XLR to Try pigtail at this stage. Glad most manufacturers have moved to XLR's. Hey playing with Soundweb I keep wondering why we can’t adopt the modern version of the barrier strip the Phoenix connector no soldering, just a small screwdriver! |
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Post by drbill on Dec 10, 2022 12:50:39 GMT -6
Thankfully I have not soldered an RCA for well over 10 years. Hope to never do one again. At this stage, I've even weaned the studio off of TRS. There's only a few pieces that need an XLR to Try pigtail at this stage. Glad most manufacturers have moved to XLR's. Hey playing with Soundweb I keep wondering why we can’t adopt the modern version of the barrier strip the Phoenix connector no soldering, just a small screwdriver! Cause nobody knows how to use a screwdriver anymore??  |
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Post by bikescene on Dec 10, 2022 14:18:03 GMT -6
For me, the RCA plugs from Amphenol are easier to work with than any of the Neutrik models.
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Post by ericn on Dec 10, 2022 14:45:24 GMT -6
For me, the RCA plugs from Amphenol are easier to work with than any of the Neutrik models. Ill have to take a look, the guy supplied these "audiophile quality" POS and yes that is what it said on the package. |
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Post by ericn on Dec 10, 2022 14:58:15 GMT -6
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Post by bikescene on Dec 10, 2022 15:57:45 GMT -6
For me, the RCA plugs from Amphenol are easier to work with than any of the Neutrik models. I’ll have to take a look, the guy supplied these "audiophile quality" POS and yes that is what it said on the package. Here’s an illustration of the installation from the Amphenol website. www.amphenolaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Amphenol_RCA_Assembly_diagram_Jan2019.pdfI see the green Phoenix Contact terminals and DIN Rail Terminal blocks all the time at the day job, in PLC and communications applications. It would be interesting to see wider use in the pro audio world. |
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Post by ericn on Dec 11, 2022 12:44:55 GMT -6
I’ll have to take a look, the guy supplied these "audiophile quality" POS and yes that is what it said on the package. Here’s an illustration of the installation from the Amphenol website. www.amphenolaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Amphenol_RCA_Assembly_diagram_Jan2019.pdfI see the green Phoenix Contact terminals and DIN Rail Terminal blocks all the time at the day job, in PLC and communications applications. It would be interesting to see wider use in the pro audio world. They are all over the install market, it’s so much easier to talk someone through using a screwdriver over the phone and if they balk explaining the minimum for a service call usually convinces them. |
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Post by svart on Dec 11, 2022 13:07:37 GMT -6
Man what are y'all going on about? RCA plugs are dead simple to use and solder. Avoid the cheap (flimsy) and the expensive (overpriced and too rigid/hard to plug) ones and you're fine.
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Post by ericn on Dec 11, 2022 13:47:09 GMT -6
Man what are y'all going on about? RCA plugs are dead simple to use and solder. Avoid the cheap (flimsy) and the expensive (overpriced and too rigid/hard to plug) ones and you're fine. The problem is these were cheap POS pretending to be audiophile with some kind of coating over the gold metal. |
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Post by soundtech on Mar 18, 2023 9:47:32 GMT -6
For me, the RCA plugs from Amphenol are easier to work with than any of the Neutrik models. Ill have to take a look, the guy supplied these "audiophile quality" POS and yes that is what it said on the package. Thanks for the Amphenol tip. They look good! |
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Post by audiospecific on Dec 13, 2023 22:13:20 GMT -6
Man what are y'all going on about? RCA plugs are dead simple to use and solder. Avoid the cheap (flimsy) and the expensive (overpriced and too rigid/hard to plug) ones and you're fine. The problem is these were cheap POS pretending to be audiophile with some kind of coating over the gold metal.
I would think using a green scotch-brite pad on them, then tin the wire just a little, then soldering them on.
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Post by recordingengineer on Dec 13, 2023 22:30:46 GMT -6
I still say DB25s are the worst to solder up! I’ve probably done close to 1k of them over the past couple decades! 💩
Just finishing up 48 Neutrik right-angle 1/4” TRS right now! I don’t like them, but I still think straight ‘ol 297 Switchcraft suck much worse!
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