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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 21:20:01 GMT -6
Brainstorming for the creative ones....ever wondered about how much makeup gain the GSSL bus compressor has? Thinking: "more than enough"? If you always thought about having a passive eq and a nice bus compressor... ...try combining pultec filters (or even easier, the "poor man's pultec" ones that don't even need inductors) in front of a GSSL - in one device. You would get a sort of solid state stereo Pultec with a compressor in a fairly easy build - the SSL makeup gain should be plenty enough to makeup for the loss of the passive filter stages as well.... You have to grab the signals after the de-balancing stages of the GSSL, feed them unbalanced into the passive filters, and bring them back to the GSSL PCB... In case of the poor man's pultec, you could even realize the filters point-2-point right on the switches. Could be realized in a 2 units high 19" case. No changes to the PSU needed, no additional heat, only one de-balancing and balancing stage per channel, and pretty cost-cutting build. Sure, no tube vibe, but pultec filters are pretty usable stuff without it. Sure - you lose gain before the compressor. So it would be kind of picky with the incoming signal. Might be, you have to drive it's input harder OR set threshold very differently to push it into gain reduction... But - this could also have a nice side effect...i.e. you may have to balance between eq and gain reduction, which might have MORE EQ and LESS COMPRESSION use as a result more often...not the worst idea, if you ask me... I am pretty sure, someone already did it...i just remeber, it was a danish member of GDIY...and it just came back to my mind, what a brilliant idea it is after thinking a bit about the concept IMO...
Best regards, Martin
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 15, 2014 10:47:02 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 12:06:29 GMT -6
Thanks, jcoutu1, i never saw this thing, but yes - you are right! Basically same idea. There are so many boutique manufacturers out there the last years...wasn't aware of that unit. I found the thread over in the danish GDIY forum in the meantime...2006, i guess 2 yrs. before RJR opened, where Luny Tune discussed it, actually with a transformer front in his unit, with Jakob Erland, the Gyraf GSSL mastermind, including prototype pics, google translator may help the interested to get more useful information on this topic: groupdiy.dk/index.php?PHPSESSID=1898av0upreqk96h7ce3irndv6&topic=202.0I guess the concept works and found it's way to the commercial market already, but nonetheless, still very interesting for DIY experiments... Best regards, Martin
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Post by svart on Jun 16, 2014 7:13:03 GMT -6
I think the pultec low end would be cool, maybe some high end too. Since bus compressors tend to take a little of the sparkle out of the top end of mixes, you could have a decent high frequency band, and since the SSL makes a nice musical pumping sound, you can use the two lower bands of the pultec to do the "pultec trick"..
that might be pretty cool
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Post by svart on Jun 24, 2014 8:25:25 GMT -6
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