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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 6, 2024 10:28:04 GMT -6
Here are those clips. These are not scientific, but I'll share them anyway. FleA 49 with the F7/AC701k and the FleA 249 with the F49/6S2B were both recorded at Callistro Music one after the other, with an ultra clean preamp I can't remember the name of, the FleA 49 with the F49/6S2B was recorded at my place through my stock Apollo Silverface preamps (I can't remember if this is mine or the Vintage King demo I tried), and the M49C which has a K47 was recorded at Barbershop Studios through an SSL preamp.
FleA 249 - F7 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
FleA 49 - F7 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
FleA 49 - F49 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
Neumann M49C - K47 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
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Post by chessparov on Feb 6, 2024 13:20:04 GMT -6
So Net Net Bottom Line... Are the M49's (Including/probably all Incarnations)... A mellower 47/48? Even more than the M7 capsuled 47/48 versions? I don't want anyone to fall asleep hearing my somewhat soothing (sometimes) almost Sominex tones.  LOL! Thanks, Chris |
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Post by kbb on Feb 6, 2024 22:43:01 GMT -6
Thanks so much for all that info! Digging around online, I stumbled into one of your tube testers videos comparing the capsules in Flea 47/48's, and I was really surprised at the difference between the capsules...like you (and thanks to you!), I much preferred the M7 in those mics. The K47 was "authoritative" to be sure, but the M7 was instant nostalgia. It unfortunately made me think I need one of those some day again. I'm going to email Ivan now that you mention it just to make sure that what I'm hearing jives with the design, but I'd bet it does. I love the mic, and I doubt I'd undo that filter now that I've used it some. I'm also glad you mentioned 100hz, that's the number I've come up with in a way...where I hear the filtering is just below that...it seems like between 60-100hz is where I hear that filter doing more than I expected. Again, thanks for all the pertinent info and also for taking time out to share sounds and reviews. They've come in really handy! That’s a nice video, and thank you for the compliment, but I’m not the Tube Test guy. Johnny and Natalie are great people and we’ve been chatting about collaborating for years. I did shoot out a pair of FleA 47s, one with an F7 and one with an F47. I just haven’t posted it yet. I have some clips of a FleA 49 with an F7, F49, and F7 with an ac701 tube. They are not scientific though. Let me see if I can find them. Oh, that's right, my apologies! I spent a lot of time listening to your tests a year ago, and when I went looking for M49 sounds, I ran into another duo (tube tests). Again, thanks for those demos! |
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Post by kbb on Feb 6, 2024 22:47:32 GMT -6
So Net Net Bottom Line... Are the M49's (Including/probably all Incarnations)... A mellower 47/48? Even more than the M7 capsuled 47/48 versions? I don't want anyone to fall asleep hearing my somewhat soothing (sometimes) almost Sominex tones. LOL! Thanks, Chris I had a Flea 47 with the M7 capsule for about 6 months, and the Flea 49 (with K47 capsule)...much more pronounced low mids..."richness" I suppose...but also overall sounds a little more saturated and harmonic to me, but I'm not sure if I'd think so if I had them side by side. Get into those Sominex tones! |
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Post by kbb on Feb 6, 2024 23:08:01 GMT -6
Here are those clips. These are not scientific, but I'll share them anyway. FleA 49 with the F7/AC701k and the FleA 249 with the F49/6S2B were both recorded at Callistro Music one after the other, with an ultra clean preamp I can't remember the name of, the FleA 49 with the F49/6S2B was recorded at my place through my stock Apollo Silverface preamps (I can't remember if this is mine or the Vintage King demo I tried), and the M49C which has a K47 was recorded at Barbershop Studios through an SSL preamp.
FleA 249 - F7 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
FleA 49 - F7 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
FleA 49 - F49 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
Neumann M49C - K47 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
Wow, this is really interesting, thank you. Do you know if there's a FleA F49 capsule in addition to the FleA F47 capsule? |
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 7, 2024 5:58:47 GMT -6
Here are those clips. These are not scientific, but I'll share them anyway. FleA 49 with the F7/AC701k and the FleA 249 with the F49/6S2B were both recorded at Callistro Music one after the other, with an ultra clean preamp I can't remember the name of, the FleA 49 with the F49/6S2B was recorded at my place through my stock Apollo Silverface preamps (I can't remember if this is mine or the Vintage King demo I tried), and the M49C which has a K47 was recorded at Barbershop Studios through an SSL preamp.
FleA 249 - F7 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
FleA 49 - F7 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
FleA 49 - F49 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
Neumann M49C - K47 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
Wow, this is really interesting, thank you. Do you know if there's a FleA F49 capsule in addition to the FleA F47 capsule? I believe they just call it the F47, but it’s a K49 capsule, meaning both sides are matched. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 7, 2024 6:01:38 GMT -6
So Net Net Bottom Line... Are the M49's (Including/probably all Incarnations)... A mellower 47/48? Even more than the M7 capsuled 47/48 versions? I don't want anyone to fall asleep hearing my somewhat soothing (sometimes) almost Sominex tones. LOL! Thanks, Chris I had a Flea 47 with the M7 capsule for about 6 months, and the Flea 49 (with K47 capsule)...much more pronounced low mids..."richness" I suppose...but also overall sounds a little more saturated and harmonic to me, but I'm not sure if I'd think so if I had them side by side. Get into those Sominex tones! I did a whole shootout between a FleA 47 with the F7 and my FleA 49 with the F47/49. That FleA 49 is the one with the lighter low end. |
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Post by kbb on Feb 8, 2024 0:05:48 GMT -6
I had a Flea 47 with the M7 capsule for about 6 months, and the Flea 49 (with K47 capsule)...much more pronounced low mids..."richness" I suppose...but also overall sounds a little more saturated and harmonic to me, but I'm not sure if I'd think so if I had them side by side. Get into those Sominex tones! I did a whole shootout between a FleA 47 with the F7 and my FleA 49 with the F47/49. That FleA 49 is the one with the lighter low end. Sincere thanks again for sharing and for the info...I remember that one from quite awhile ago. Watching it again confirms what i love about the 49-type, and I appreciate your end notes as well; I'm in a similar place where the F47 suits my voice better than the M7 probably, but it's hard not to love what the M7 does. I also hear something amazing in the AC701k...amazing enough that I'd consider shelling out for it, but then again I really really love the mic I have. Again, very sincere thanks! |
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 8, 2024 9:00:29 GMT -6
I did a whole shootout between a FleA 47 with the F7 and my FleA 49 with the F47/49. That FleA 49 is the one with the lighter low end. Sincere thanks again for sharing and for the info...I remember that one from quite awhile ago. Watching it again confirms what i love about the 49-type, and I appreciate your end notes as well; I'm in a similar place where the F47 suits my voice better than the M7 probably, but it's hard not to love what the M7 does. I also hear something amazing in the AC701k...amazing enough that I'd consider shelling out for it, but then again I really really love the mic I have. Again, very sincere thanks! I went down the AC701 rabbit hole a couple of years ago. It adds something gorgeous. I did eventually grab a lead on them, but they were hard to track down. After tracking them down, I kind of let it go. I figured there are some vintage M49s out there that deserve them. I'd love to try the new M49V, which uses the same tube as the FleA, the 6S2B. One day maybe. I can't justify it when I love the way my FleA 49 sounds on me, especially the one with the lighter low end. |
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Post by smashlord on Sept 30, 2024 22:33:51 GMT -6
Are the Fleas still offered with the F49 capsule? I'm only seeing the F7 when looking online.
I just cut some vocals with an M49 I used to have access to on the reg for years for the first time in a while and forgot how much I LOVE that mic on vocals. It was always my go to over the U67s and U47s the studio also had. Needless to say, I'm gassing hard for something in that realm now.
I don't know what capsule this M49 has... I am going to guess a K49, since I never heard anything about it's capsule being replaced or re-skinned at any point and listening to the clips above, the F7 sounds nothing like this M49 and the F49 sounds pretty darn close, albeit it with some upper mid resonance that the Neumann doesn't have (but hey, that's why we have Pro-Q3).
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 1, 2024 4:12:15 GMT -6
Are the Fleas still offered with the F49 capsule? I'm only seeing the F7 when looking online. I just cut some vocals with an M49 I used to have access to on the reg for years for the first time in a while and forgot how much I LOVE that mic on vocals. It was always my go to over the U67s and U47s the studio also had. Needless to say, I'm gassing hard for something in that realm now. I don't know what capsule this M49 has... I am going to guess a K49, since I never heard anything about it's capsule being replaced or re-skinned at any point and listening to the clips above, the F7 sounds nothing like this M49 and the F49 sounds pretty darn close, albeit it with some upper mid resonance that the Neumann doesn't have (but hey, that's why we have Pro-Q3). Yes, but they are not stock. You have to ask the dealer to order it for you. I bought mine through Calistro Music and Craig Calistro was great. |
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