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Post by mobeach on Aug 2, 2014 18:41:48 GMT -6
Is this guy up there with Paganini, Bach and Mozart or what! His sound tracks and overall composing never cease to amaze me! I just watched Man of Steel and I think it's one of his best yet. I've seen photos of his personal studio which are beyond impressive as well. Opinions?
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Post by jeromemason on Aug 3, 2014 14:07:42 GMT -6
I just did an essay on Zimmer, and he's probably the most gifted composer since Chopin. Hans has been an inspiration to me for years and what he can do is actually pure genius.
And I love hearing the guy talk, his accent is tamed and he can talk to so fast but I understand every word he says. We won't see another like him for a long time, if our generation gets to at all.
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Post by mobeach on Aug 3, 2014 16:48:52 GMT -6
I'm going to make it a goal to buy every sound track he's done. The production is so damned explosive!
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Post by mobeach on Aug 3, 2014 17:24:09 GMT -6
Very interesting short video about the percussion sessions for Man of Steel, do they all record like this?
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Post by mobeach on Aug 3, 2014 17:38:32 GMT -6
And during the movie I had no idea a Pedal Steel section were involved.
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Post by jeromemason on Aug 3, 2014 19:05:51 GMT -6
Hans does all kinds of things man, stuff that you hear in soundtracks that you can't understand what it might be.... it could be the tapping of pencil, dragging something across a piano string, I mean anything, and he always uses instruments that are not typical of the modern Orchestra in his scores. The guy used to attach chainsaws and other mechanical things to his mothers piano to see what kind of sound it would make, he's just a genius. I wouldn't say he's like Mozart, because Mozart wrote his first symphony when he was 6, but Hans is up there with the best for sure. He's the best in the business without question. I love John Williams, but Hans' creativity is just in another world, you add that in with the beautiful melodic content and no one can touch him.
I think it's awesome people want to talk about this type of genre, I love it, it has so much influence in how I work. My most favorite of Hans' work is the Batman scores, he was given a blank check and cart blanche, so you really get to understand in those series of movies just how amazing he can really be. He's basically given that in everything now, but that's when it really first started happening when a director would just go "Hans, go live in a cave for 8 months and bring me what you create." It's amazing.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 3, 2014 19:23:59 GMT -6
Very interesting short video about the percussion sessions for Man of Steel, do they all record like this? that is about as cool as shit!! thanx for sharing.
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Post by mobeach on Aug 3, 2014 20:06:29 GMT -6
I record a good amount of ambient orchestral stuff using Omnisphere and NI plugins, but it's purely as a hobbyist. I just push the system resources and see what I can do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 12:46:25 GMT -6
+1 Hans Zimmer fan
This story in the vid really impressed me. Zimmer going really minimal to make "the evil" audible. He really is a genious. No doubt. And a very productive one, too...
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Post by mobeach on Aug 7, 2014 15:53:55 GMT -6
Interesting, all that technology and all those professional plugins and he uses a Cello..
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Post by henge on Aug 8, 2014 21:17:53 GMT -6
And during the movie I had no idea a Pedal Steel section were involved. Well that was frikkin insane!!! I'm going to get into Hans Zimmer because of you guys. What should I start with. The Batman stuff sounds awesome...
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Post by jeromemason on Aug 8, 2014 21:54:44 GMT -6
Batman is great to hear some, but his work is amazing in everything you listen to. Just look at his discog and start from about 04'. Plus the "Crimson Tide" soundtrack is really good too.
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Post by mobeach on Aug 9, 2014 7:03:17 GMT -6
Hannibal, Black Hawk Down are good ones, BHD shows his prowess at ethnic progressions. Gladiator is another good one.
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Post by henge on Aug 9, 2014 7:56:34 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Going to go buy the CD's!!
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Post by jeromemason on Aug 9, 2014 14:15:46 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Going to go buy the CD's!! Hey man, check out HDtracks.com..... I got a lot of my Zimmer stuff from there because it's in either 96/24 or sometimes 192/24.
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Post by mobeach on Aug 9, 2014 14:54:29 GMT -6
Zimmer and friends performing the Dark Knight live! This is better than Tangerine Dream
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Post by jeromemason on Aug 10, 2014 15:52:42 GMT -6
Just watching the video this is what I'm talking about..... it sounds all messed up, but when that melody kicks in the goosebumps arise, such a good melody.
That's what I love about Hans, he does it all, the unique sounds, totally unique, but his melodies extract your soul. Genius.
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Post by unit7 on Aug 11, 2014 5:14:30 GMT -6
I agree he's a master of the film scoring trade. And has always been a pioneer in creating new exciting sounds and textures. I remember an article in Keyboard magazine from more than 20 yrs ago. Already then he sampled his own string libraries etc, incredible.
My Zimmer favorite is the main theme from Gladiator.
Worth to note is his huge team of composers (ghost writers), arrangers and programmers. He puts his signature on stuff that he hasn't written himself, with some exceptions, for instance that big hit (in 12/8) from Pirates of the Caribbean. I don't mind at all, and Zimmer is of course in charge and controls everything. This is the way some people work and contract people, but it could be noted.
My only hesitation is to what degree he's a genious as a composer per se. As mentioned I think he's a true master and genious when it comes to make music work in a picture, create those themes that we'll always connect to certain films and just enhance the whole experience. I think that's art just as much as any other artform. It's just that for periods I listen to classical music and sometimes use certain recordings as reference for a modern orchestral sound. For me there's quite a difference when you listen to the classical masters, like Richard Strauss, Mahler, Maurice Ravel just to name a few true geniouses, and compare to the current giants of film scoring. Almost always I feel there's more depth and more dimensions in the old masterpieces.
Classical connoisseurs (a few friends of mine are..) always hear instantly where they've 'borrowed' the orchestral textures and even themes. This is perhaps the most famous example (Erich Wolfgang Korngold, from the film King's Row 1941):
Ok, excuse me... Back to Mr Zimmer! :-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 10:45:31 GMT -6
Ah, yes, Paul, i see your point... ;-) but in the end, a film composer is limited by the tension bows of the pictures that he got, and the feelings he is told to support by the movie directors, the classic componists were mainly limited by their imagination...different types of approaches...
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 27, 2014 15:22:38 GMT -6
Is this guy up there with Paganini, Bach and Mozart or what! His sound tracks and overall composing never cease to amaze me! I just watched Man of Steel and I think it's one of his best yet. I've seen photos of his personal studio which are beyond impressive as well. Opinions? Pretty sure he is not a Mozart. Mozart was pretty much outstanding already at the age of 5, and with fourteen a true genius. Friend of mine worked for him. Mr Zimmer is a hard worker and also pays a lot of helping hands. For me he brought the way film-music is produced to a new level; and with this he became one of the richest composers in the world. You have to love what you do if you hang for 16 hours a day in your studio working. He is one of those persons…. he loves it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 30, 2014 20:25:51 GMT -6
Ah that is President Reagan on the cover right ?
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Post by mobeach on Sept 1, 2014 19:46:55 GMT -6
Ah that is President Reagan on the cover right ? I was in the Navy under Reagan, loved that guy.
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