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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 10, 2024 17:49:21 GMT -6
I asked because you can roll back to the original OS, then forward to the one previous to your current which is problematic and just stay there.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 10, 2024 18:33:48 GMT -6
I asked because you can roll back to the original OS, then forward to the one previous to your current which is problematic and just stay there. Evidently a few other people tried installing older versions of the operating system and it didn't solve the problem. It's a pretty weird situation
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 10, 2024 18:36:09 GMT -6
Did they load the older ua authorities?
I have the same Mac, not running current update and uadX plugs, zero problems.
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 10, 2024 21:26:57 GMT -6
So wait, is it a problem with 14.6.1 across the board, or a problem with 14.6.1 and a particular OS iteration?
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 11, 2024 5:55:55 GMT -6
Is this a Gatekeeper issue ?
Info about Sequoia, but Gatekeeper info embedded :
macOS Sequoia Will Make It Harder To Get Round Gatekeeper Security Gatekeeper is designed to ensure that Macs only run ‘trusted’ software to protect users from malware, viruses, and other security risks. Apple is continuing to crack down on unsigned software.
When you try to install apps on macOS that haven't been signed or notarized, Gatekeeper pops up and won’t let you proceed. Up until macOS Sequoia, users could hold down Control and Click on a freshly installed app to bypass Gatekeeper's warnings about running ‘unsafe software’.
With macOS Sequoia, users must go to System Settings's Privacy & Security section to allow the app to run.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 11, 2024 12:18:46 GMT -6
So wait, is it a problem with 14.6.1 across the board, or a problem with 14.6.1 and a particular OS iteration? Not really sure. UAD has no answers and the thread that I linked isn't too helpful either. Your guess is as good as mine!
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Sept 11, 2024 16:18:02 GMT -6
So wait, is it a problem with 14.6.1 across the board, or a problem with 14.6.1 and a particular OS iteration? Not really sure. UAD has no answers and the thread that I linked isn't too helpful either. Your guess is as good as mine! Special installer for those that have criticized UAD on GS.
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Post by frans on Sept 12, 2024 2:29:01 GMT -6
It's not much help here, but after i did try out what was working with what i did a final clean install, then copied the whole system drive with CarbonCopyCloner (with all auths and whatnot) and set it aside. If the shit hits the fan, i can go back in time in five minutes. This is easier to do in a bigger machine, as i have a number of seperate drives in the machine. One is just for the OS and apps, no data. The other is data. The third is spare/ and incremental (no erase) data backup.
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Post by richr on Sept 12, 2024 5:18:09 GMT -6
FWIW I'm on a Mac Studio M1 Ultra PT 2024.3.1 and I updated to OS 14.6.1 with zero problems. I run UAD plugins natively and DSP with an Octo Satellite. So the issue isn't as universal as some would suggest. Must be a system specific conflict.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 12, 2024 8:15:01 GMT -6
FWIW I'm on a Mac Studio M1 Ultra PT 2024.3.1 and I updated to OS 14.6.1 with zero problems. I run UAD plugins natively and DSP with an Octo Satellite. So the issue isn't as universal as some would suggest. Must be a system specific conflict. When did you do the update? The pattern seems to be that folks who updates to 14.6.1 when it first came out are fine but those who updated in the last week or so are not.
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Post by richr on Sept 12, 2024 12:31:06 GMT -6
I only updated on Tuesday this week (10th)
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 12, 2024 12:34:02 GMT -6
I only updated on Tuesday this week (10th) That's so weird. So obviously there must be some variable we're not thinking of and that UAD support hasn't thought of. Anyway I don't think anyone is saying it's universal, at least not that I've seen.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 12, 2024 12:36:44 GMT -6
I'll give Drew credit this time... it only took him 8 pages to start the gaslighting. See screenshots. Every time you update the Mac OS (for years now) it warns you that UAD extensions will be incompatible with future updates. And yet Drew says that Apple is not deprecating KEXT despite Apple saying it is deprecating KEXT. Prediction: He comes back with a semantic distinction along the lines of "Correct, Apple is deprecating KEXT. But it has not deprecated it."
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Post by FM77 on Sept 12, 2024 13:21:34 GMT -6
I only updated on Tuesday this week (10th) That's so weird. So obviously there must be some variable we're not thinking of and that UAD support hasn't thought of. Anyway I don't think anyone is saying it's universal, at least not that I've seen. I wouldn't read too much into that. Any first post that is 'UAD update is working perfectly' for me etc... should always be read with some shill suspicion. UAD is truly a horrible company and I am sorry you are having to deal with this man.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 12, 2024 13:48:58 GMT -6
I’ve kinda cooled on UAD, but I’m not sure why people hate them so much.
Did you ever delete the cleaner app?
Yeah I see you did. I’d just make sure you don’t have anything else like that or that one is completely gone. I was having the exact same issues and when I got rid of it, everything installed correctly on several different installers.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 12, 2024 14:17:11 GMT -6
I'm assuming you are using the latest UAD bundle (11.4 - which of course is annoying only delivered via UA Connect)? Yes although others in the thread tried with older versions and still no luck. It's quite a mystery. Seems to be an issue with conflicting extensions and also an issue with the fact that they're doing workarounds on Apple security instead of recoding to comply. UAD users know what I'm talking about. You literally have to disable the OS security to install UAD. So, are you not prepared to just roll back, why bother with this ua shite?
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 12, 2024 17:14:04 GMT -6
I’ve kinda cooled on UAD, but I’m not sure why people hate them so much. Did you ever delete the cleaner app? Yeah I see you did. I’d just make sure you don’t have anything else like that or that one is completely gone. I was having the exact same issues and when I got rid of it, everything installed correctly on several different installers. I'm kinda out of ideas. I'm just using UADx for my mixes for now until they fix whatever it is. It's a bit annoying because there are a few things I use a lot (C-Vox for example) that I need to find replacements for but not a huge deal I guess. It's just irritating mostly. I hate workarounds and I don't like feeling like I couldn't solve the puzzle. But... I couldn't solve the puzzle!
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 12, 2024 17:15:54 GMT -6
Yes although others in the thread tried with older versions and still no luck. It's quite a mystery. Seems to be an issue with conflicting extensions and also an issue with the fact that they're doing workarounds on Apple security instead of recoding to comply. UAD users know what I'm talking about. You literally have to disable the OS security to install UAD. So, are you not prepared to just roll back, why bother with this ua shite? If it turns out that it will work yeah. But I'm not going to reinstall everything if it doesn't fix anything. Guys on the UAD forum thread even went back and installed Ventura and imported files and still got the same error. I think it is a Mac thing but it's on UAD for ignoring years of warning that Kernal Extensions are going away. I'm annoyed with both companies.
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Post by wiz on Sept 12, 2024 17:22:48 GMT -6
I am running Sonoma 14.6.1 on a M1 Mac mini 8GB... I haven't had any issue....
I can't remember when I applied the upgrade ... but it was when it first came out.
My thought is maybe the update was changed between when I did it.. and these problems started....maybe?
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 12, 2024 17:40:27 GMT -6
Something doesn’t make sense, as I am on the previous OS, m1 mini and updated ua uadX using ua connect about a month ago.
Have never seen your pop up and everything runs fine here.
Is it no longer possible to get previous UA software releases on its website ?
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 12, 2024 17:57:50 GMT -6
Something doesn’t make sense, as I am on the previous OS, m1 mini and updated ua uadX using ua connect about a month ago. Have never seen your pop up and everything runs fine here. Is it no longer possible to get previous UA software releases on its website ? It's definitely related to the OS update in some way. UAD support sent me an old verision of the UA software a few hours ago, haven't had a chance to try to install it yet.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 12, 2024 18:09:14 GMT -6
Great, copy it before you install.
Personally? I’d roll back your os too, but that is a little tedious.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 12, 2024 18:10:54 GMT -6
Install the latest version of macOS compatible with your computer: Option-Command-R. Reinstall your computer's original version of macOS (including available updates): Option-Shift-Command-R. Reinstall your current version of macOS: Command-R. support.apple.com › mac Reinstall macOS - Apple Support
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Post by Dan on Sept 12, 2024 22:56:19 GMT -6
Is this a Gatekeeper issue ? Info about Sequoia, but Gatekeeper info embedded : macOS Sequoia Will Make It Harder To Get Round Gatekeeper Security Gatekeeper is designed to ensure that Macs only run ‘trusted’ software to protect users from malware, viruses, and other security risks. Apple is continuing to crack down on unsigned software. When you try to install apps on macOS that haven't been signed or notarized, Gatekeeper pops up and won’t let you proceed. Up until macOS Sequoia, users could hold down Control and Click on a freshly installed app to bypass Gatekeeper's warnings about running ‘unsafe software’. With macOS Sequoia, users must go to System Settings's Privacy & Security section to allow the app to run. Apple want you to have to pay them money to write software for their computers. I hope they get sued to hell like Nintendo did back in the day.
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Post by Dan on Sept 12, 2024 22:59:52 GMT -6
To get a notarized “app” (what a stupid name for a program or executable apple), you have to provide a copy of the source code to Apple. How Orwellian is that?
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