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Post by unit7 on Sept 12, 2014 13:17:51 GMT -6
I'm upgrading to AAX and finally have to leave my old Amp Farm (TDM). I know it's terribly old but it has worked for me for occasional demo work and fast commercial spot gigs, mostly doing bass amp simulation, but also guitar amp simulation - Fender silver & blackface, Vox AC30 and sometimes Marshall. All pretty middle of the road. Someone recommended AmpliTube. Seems to to the job. Any advice from you twangers?
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Post by matt on Sept 12, 2014 20:21:53 GMT -6
Interested in this as well. What say you all?
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Post by odyssey76 on Sept 13, 2014 12:00:40 GMT -6
I'm in the middle of demoing Scuffham S Gear and I really like it. I've tried a bunch of sims and hadn't liked a single one until I tried this. Listen to the stuff that henge does. He uses S Gear for most of his tunes and it sounds great. I've been playing guitar for 28 years and was one of those guys who said that I'd never go to digital modeling. Give it a shot -15 day demo period. BTW I am going to purchase it  I'm going to try to put together a few sound bytes when I get some tones dialed in. |
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Post by geoff738 on Sept 13, 2014 12:51:21 GMT -6
I'm in the middle of demoing Scuffham S Gear and I really like it. I've tried a bunch of sims and hadn't liked a single one until I tried this. Listen to the stuff that henge does. He uses S Gear for most of his tunes and it sounds great. I've been playing guitar for 28 years and was one of those guys who said that I'd never go to digital modeling. Give it a shot -15 day demo period. BTW I am going to purchase it I'm going to try to put together a few sound bytes when I get some tones dialed in. I was going to ask specifically about the Scuffham. I know it doesn't have a lot of models and I'm sort of puzzled at what each of the models is going for. I think there is a new tweed model? Can it do clean to edge of breakup Blackface tones - small and large so 6v6 and 6L6? Marshall? Vox? How about little snarly things like Supros/ Valcos/ tweed Champs or Gibsons etc. How about Ampeg? I know, I know, I should just go demo it, but any input is appreciated by those who've used it. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by henge on Sept 13, 2014 13:11:24 GMT -6
I'm in the middle of demoing Scuffham S Gear and I really like it. I've tried a bunch of sims and hadn't liked a single one until I tried this. Listen to the stuff that henge does. He uses S Gear for most of his tunes and it sounds great. I've been playing guitar for 28 years and was one of those guys who said that I'd never go to digital modeling. Give it a shot -15 day demo period. BTW I am going to purchase it I'm going to try to put together a few sound bytes when I get some tones dialed in. I was going to ask specifically about the Scuffham. I know it doesn't have a lot of models and I'm sort of puzzled at what each of the models is going for. I think there is a new tweed model? Can it do clean to edge of breakup Blackface tones - small and large so 6v6 and 6L6? Marshall? Vox? How about little snarly things like Supros/ Valcos/ tweed Champs or Gibsons etc. How about Ampeg? I know, I know, I should just go demo it, but any input is appreciated by those who've used it. Cheers, Geoff S-Gear aren't specific models. They're based on popular amps with tweaks that the dev put in. So there are 5 amps generally based on a Deluxe,Marshall,Mesa,Custom 57 and some high gain thing. The speaker impulses are excellent and the fx are quite good. Try the demo and start tweaking! The presets are excellent starting points. It does clean and edge of breakup very nicely and responds to touch and volume very well. Responsive is a term I'd use. It does the little supro thing really well imo. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 14, 2014 10:05:44 GMT -6
Man - I really go back to Amplitube every time. I know that Revalver 4 has GOT to be better than the 30 minutes that I spent with it...but I didn't have time to futz with it.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 25, 2014 18:55:37 GMT -6
If its only for demo or composing issues
or ad music why not using the stock stuff of your daw. Thats what I do in logic since version 7. For the rest I always prefer real amps….
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:07:56 GMT -6
I also use what my DAW has to offer, in my case a light version of Overloud TH2.
But i also use a bunch of great free plugins.
Aradaz, SimulAnalog, LePou, TSE, Nick Crow Lab, Ignite Amps, AcmeBarGig and lately Vadim Taranov's amps.
Some of them are available for Mac, too, i remember the excellent LePou plugins and some others.
Some very good amps are hiding in this list, especially some of the hi-gain amps. Also, some good IR packages are out there for free.
In the last years the techniques of good sounding emulation dsp more and more came to the light, it is not black art anymore.
Vadim Taranov explained it pretty simple how he does his amps.
He builds the circuits in LTspice, measures every stage, and then re-models each stage by a clipper followed by a waveshaper.
There are other methods that build up the transfer functions more theoretically, like explained on SimulAnalog webpage.
All in all, there are excellent amp emus out there for free, that beat up many older commercial products easily...
BR,
Martin
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:18:49 GMT -6
BTW...for those who are into hi-gain signature monster sounds...
Just a short vid demonstration with one free amp and a free 46 IR package...
I hope this is not too off-topic...
(warning: loud)
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Post by levon on Sept 30, 2014 23:35:23 GMT -6
Scuffham's S-Gear all the way. It is amazing. I still have Amplitube and the Brainworx Rockrack, but they gather virtual dust these days. Rockrack is good to, but better suited for heavier styles and less flexible, IMO. Mike Scuffham is a former Marshall developer, he knows tone. As henge said, S-Gear doesn't model specific amps but gives you the best of Marshall/Fender/Mesa/whatever-land. And, for that price, it's a no-brainer.
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Post by WKG on Oct 6, 2014 12:37:01 GMT -6
Another plug here for Scuffham S-Gear. I've also got BX Rockrack and Amplitube. Out of those three Scuffham get most use, then BX.
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Post by scumbum on Oct 17, 2014 11:30:38 GMT -6
What about Eleven Rack ? Never tried it .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 15:34:38 GMT -6
Bias Desktop looks very cool
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Post by WKG on Oct 21, 2014 20:43:27 GMT -6
Bias Desktop looks very cool I just saw that. The Professional option has amp matching also, very interesting...
BIAS Desktop
They've also got a 2 and 4 channel blue tooth footswitch to control it on your iPhone with an interface for your guitar. I've always been Android here but this looks cool.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 22, 2014 9:17:31 GMT -6
I use my amp 99% of the time these days, but do have lots of tracks done with either Amplitude or Logic's amps. Honestly, I've used almost every Fender amp you can name at some point, and Apple's sims sound just like them. When I've heard the Scuffham files online, they do sound like a step up, but I only heard the comparison with a real Marshall 100. Take UAD's amp plugs for instance, they don't sound one bit better than Amplitude or Logic's. Here's a tip I can pass along, I have UAD's Fatso plug, and when tracking with an amp sim, it does bring some of the real amp vibe back, but at a huge DSP cost. I downloaded LVC Audio's Phree Phuzz a while back, and on the amp sim's channel strip, I dial a little of it in. It does the same thing as the Fatso, make it a little more real sounding, but without the DSP hit. See if it's still available, I use it almost every time I use amp sims. Try this: lvcaudio.com/plugins/phreephuzz/#Download |
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Post by unit7 on Oct 23, 2014 17:08:18 GMT -6
Great tips! I guess more than me have learned of a new sim or two, but anyway Thanks!! I think I'll start with demoing that S-Gear first. The 'I never used X until I heard this' always works I don't play the guitar, but will bring up an old project with some Amp farm instances that won't load anymore. I agree that the BIAS Desktop looks very interesting, but I think it has a few too many options for my needs. |
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