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Post by LesC on Aug 12, 2013 0:17:35 GMT -6
There have been threads in several forums about the "best" way to record through a Kemper, allowing for re-amping. There seem to be different opinions, and having just ordered a Kemper, I'd like to find out what you guys are doing.
The obvious choice seems to be using the S/PDIF output, one track for the raw (but digital) guitar sound and one track for the modeled sound. This would eliminate two conversions, Kemper D/A and DAW interface A/D. However, I know a lot of digital equipment is voiced by the manufacturer to take into account the characteristics of their D/A.
So is the best option for recording to use S/PDIF, or to take the Kemper analog output into my Burl B2 A/D?
And is the best option for re-amping to use S/PDIF, or record the raw (analog) guitar sound from the Kemper direct output, or use my Little Labs 3D Phantom direct box?
I realize I'm probably over thinking this, but it gives me a chance to do something other than salivate in anticipation of the Kemper's arrival.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 12:49:15 GMT -6
I take the analog out and go straight into the converters, the direct out into a preamp into the daw. I don't use the digital outs.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 12, 2013 15:13:25 GMT -6
I get crackles with the spdif on the Symphony...Weird...I've had better luck with cheaper interfaces.
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Post by jakemurray on Aug 13, 2013 7:45:08 GMT -6
I've been recording it as an audio signal, but was looking into setting it up as a digital connection to save a bit of hassle... but then I just ended up leaving it always connected to one of my inputs and labelling the patchbay. Seems that if you're getting crackle analogue might be the way to go!
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Post by LesC on Aug 13, 2013 8:34:36 GMT -6
I'm curious if anybody has compared analog vs digital Kemper recording? I think what I'll do at the beginning is simply record 4 tracks simultaneously, SPDIF (raw and processed), direct out (raw), and monitor out (processed). This will let me compare analog vs digital with an identical performance. Then I'll also be able to compare the SPDIF and direct out recordings for re-amping. I was hoping somebody had done this, and could give me tips on what to listen for, I'm assuming the results will be very similar.
My relatively cheap RME UFX should be able to handle SPDIF, and I'll use the Burl for the analog signals.
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Post by bobbritt on Aug 14, 2013 7:33:16 GMT -6
Curious what your little test will reveal... Never tried re-amping with it, but I have tried the spdif into the daw vs through a 1073 type pre, and I tend to prefer running through the pre... transformers are good.
I suspect that for re-amping back through the Kemper, spdif may be the way to go.
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Post by LesC on Aug 14, 2013 10:49:48 GMT -6
I'm sure you're right, a good pre would sound better than dry. But I'm thinking that for re-amping you might want a signal as close to the original guitar signal as possible, either from the Kemper direct out or spdif.
However, I just realized that I can't do the test the way I was thinking of doing it. Unfortunately, the RME UFX only allows the use of one digital input at a time, so either the Kemper or the Burl A/D but not both. Nuts!!! This is OK for my normal recording which is only one mono or stereo signal at a time, but it won't work for my test.
So I'll record a dry guitar signal first. Then I'll re-amp using the Kemper SPDIF and the Kemper analog out separately, so that the Kemper will receive an identical signal in each case. I'm really curious if the SPDIF will be better because of one less D/A - A/D conversion, or if the analog out will be better in spite of the additional conversion because of the added mojo of the Burl.
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Post by LesC on Aug 14, 2013 10:52:22 GMT -6
Bob, I just realized that I may have misinterpreted what you wrote. Did you mean that you tried the dry signal through spdif and through a 1073? Or that you tried the processed signal through spdif and through a 1073?
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Post by bobbritt on Aug 14, 2013 14:47:55 GMT -6
I was talking about the amp sound. I haven't tried re-amping.
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Post by LesC on Aug 14, 2013 14:55:50 GMT -6
Thank you, that's good to know. I'm planning on getting a Heritage DMA-73, so I'll give it a try. Or maybe the Burl tranny will be enough.
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