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Post by kilroyrock on Jun 6, 2016 12:20:14 GMT -6
I stand by my 1983 jcm800 50 watt combo, and always will. Vertical jacks baby. No frills all chills
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Post by sean on Jun 6, 2016 12:29:13 GMT -6
Drums are pretty affordable in terms of vintage instruments, especially locally because not everyone wants to ship a drum kit and you can get good deals.
I don't know there's something more fun about buying a 60's Slingerland Kit for $400 than I don't know a fifth of a U87
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Post by Guitar on Jun 6, 2016 12:51:28 GMT -6
Monkeyxx, of course it depends on what your needs are and your budget, but the best "Marshall" you can buy now is a Blankenship. Roy Blankenship is an amp genius, semi-retired. The touch sensitivity of his Leeds 21 is unparalleled. I once had a Marshall 100 that came from the Allman Bros. when they did the classic Live at the Fillmore album. It was the best amp I've ever owned. Today, unless you play big festivals, 100 watts is overkill, and if you play it on too low a volume, you won't get the creamy chunk chunka or sustain. Thanks for the info. Due to my budget restrictions I am looking squarely at the new-ish DSL100H. Distinct advantages are two channels, each with 2 levels of gain on tap that is not related to output volume. Also there is a 50/100 watt switch on back, which should come in handy. And the resonance knob is something I really appreciate, I like dat bass. I've listened to tons of demos, and this seems the right place for me to start. If I want to get full on cranked amp tone, I've got plenty of small and mid sized vintage style amps already here. My Champ with the Landgraff Boost into the Cannabis Rex 1x12 just sounds huge, and not overly loud. The Marshall I really am wanting to do the "big amp" thing with. It will sort of be the yin or yang to my Fender Showman. I specifically want an amp that has preamp tube overdrive built in, up to high-ish gains. I was looking at the Peavey 6505, but my guts are telling me I'll get more of an immediate use out of the classic "Marshall sound." I've also been on the lookout for an AC30 but I feel that the Marshall sound takes precedence for me right now, with the direction I'd like to take my playing. I don't think I'll have too much trouble finding one for $600 or less. By the way, if anyone is in the market for a nice, clean Neumann KM184 I'm probably about to list it in the classifieds. As much as it hurts to let a nice mic like that go, I really want to focus on my guitar playing right now, so the Marshall seems like a good trade. jcoutu1 's recent session pics/clips were a big help in leading me to this inspiration. I am, however, on the lookout soon for a reasonably priced pair of SDC that will "kill" on drum overheads. In the mean time, it will be tube LDC or KSM137, which is not too bad a place to reside. A couple of DIY U87 might also begin to fill this role, when they get built. I've just seen a lot of guys using SDC with rock drums and I kind of like their clear sound. Like I said it sucks to play drums, bass, piano, synth, and guitar, hahaha. Have to make little trades here and there, give some get some. I can't afford a second KM184 and I want the Marshall so badly, it seems like the right time to switch. The cool thing about both of these products are they are very easy to find, so it's not too hard to get a decent deal either buying or selling. I wouldn't feel so bad taking something common like that on the road for gigs. Some of my vintage stuff is starting to seem a little too precious. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 6, 2016 15:13:51 GMT -6
If you're going big, I think the best choice is still after all this time, a Marshall. Go get it bro! If I was going for more watts for myself, I'd look at a Matchless or Bad Cat. My friend has a 30 watt Bad Cat that can wake the dead.
There's probably a fuzz pedal here, but if I was playing some bigger halls or playing with a bad ass R&R group, I'd want to sound something like this. Skip to 1:30.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2016 17:39:19 GMT -6
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Post by rowmat on Jun 7, 2016 0:13:25 GMT -6
If you're going big, I think the best choice is still after all this time, a Marshall. Go get it bro! If I was going for more watts for myself, I'd look at a Matchless or Bad Cat. My friend has a 30 watt Bad Cat that can wake the dead. There's probably a fuzz pedal here, but if I was playing some bigger halls or playing with a bad ass R&R group, I'd want to sound something like this. Skip to 1:30. Saw Lucinda Williams about twenty years back here in Melbourne. Gerf Morlix was playing a Silvertone through a pair of Fender Twin Reverbs. Wasn't bad ass aggressive as such but was one of the best guitar sounds I've heard. Big but not muddy, punchy in the mids but never harsh on the ears. Still remember it after all these years. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 7, 2016 7:34:45 GMT -6
Doug Pettibone is the guitarist on this track. If I had to guess, I'd say it was a Matchless amp though.
Personally, I hate Twin Reverbs. The two speaker combo's never worked for my taste. I prefer 1 speaker or 4. I had a 50w. Marshall combo in the 70's, with two 12" Celestials, that thing could never be turned up past 3.5, and even when cranked, it never broke up sweetly. There weren't any really any good gain or distortion pedals then. I'd take a blackface 60's Super Reverb or a Louis Electric Princetone over any Fender with two speakers. I'd also rather have a 15w 1X12" speaker than 30W. 2 X 12", but that's just me. If it sounds good, who cares.
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Post by EmRR on Jun 7, 2016 8:22:17 GMT -6
Electro-Voice 654A, nice omni dynamic.
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 8, 2016 13:38:42 GMT -6
Eveintide 3500, MXR dual Limiter, KM140 pair (with additional 150 capsules), km53 and a sm7. I think that is all the recent purchases besides a nice wood stove and couch for the house!
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Post by ericn on Jun 8, 2016 15:33:12 GMT -6
Eveintide 3500, MXR dual Limiter, KM140 pair (with additional 150 capsules), km53 and a sm7. I think that is all the recent purchases besides a nice wood stove and couch for the house! Eventide 3000/3500 is still to my ears the vocal sound of the late 80's / 90's pop! Have fun with the MXR, I never have had a chance to work with one that worked correctly! |
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 8, 2016 22:14:30 GMT -6
ericn what did the MXR not do correctly? I still need to plug it in and test it. It looks like a strong candidate for a mod. I haven't heard a PWM compressor I didn't like so I had to try this one as well. I will let you know how it works and sounds.
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Post by ericn on Jun 9, 2016 8:28:31 GMT -6
ericn what did the MXR not do correctly? I still need to plug it in and test it. It looks like a strong candidate for a mod. I haven't heard a PWM compressor I didn't like so I had to try this one as well. I will let you know how it works and sounds. Dan everybody told me these were a must here, the bargain of the century, well every time I walked into a room and see one I just had to hear them and they were either DOA, great at producing hiss or doing a great impression of a distortion pedal. I do believe this had more to do with the owners lack of any tech skills rather than the unit. MXR had a reputation of great products low price, but in the late 80's early 90's I always found MXR in the racks of those who didn't have nor care to have a a good tech! I can't wait to hear some samples of yours ! |
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Post by sean on Jun 9, 2016 12:25:30 GMT -6
I need to spend some time with a Cub III, I have a Goodsell Super 17 MK IV which is a great little amp but I'm not a fan of the reverb. Maybe the Bad Cat is better. Or maybe I'm spoiled by my Swart
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Post by Ward on Jun 9, 2016 21:51:48 GMT -6
Electro-Voice 654A, nice omni dynamic. 1977 Radioshack dictation cassette deck mic with the pause button on it. Remove the pause button, convert output to a 1/4" and run it into a DI box. Sounds very similar. |
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Post by EmRR on Jun 9, 2016 23:53:40 GMT -6
Nah, 654A is far better.
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Post by wiz on Jun 10, 2016 2:13:14 GMT -6
Rode NTR
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Post by rowmat on Jun 10, 2016 3:08:56 GMT -6
Have had pair for about a year. IMO they fall somewhere in between a typical ribbon and a LDC. Smoother than most LCD's but don't need as much hi-end boost as a ribbon. Maybe kind of heading into M49 territory just a little... I did say "little". |
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Post by Ward on Jun 11, 2016 11:39:04 GMT -6
Have had pair for about a year. IMO they fall somewhere in between a typical ribbon and a LDC. Smoother than most LCD's but don't need as much hi-end boost as a ribbon. Maybe kind of heading into M49 territory just a little... I did say "little". Nonsense. They don't "bark when bitten" like an M49 does. See the other thread here on the M49 with the link to the Norah Jones song for an audio example of what that is. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 11, 2016 13:29:18 GMT -6
Warm Audio wa76 |
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Post by rowmat on Jun 12, 2016 1:22:32 GMT -6
Have had pair for about a year. IMO they fall somewhere in between a typical ribbon and a LDC. Smoother than most LCD's but don't need as much hi-end boost as a ribbon. Maybe kind of heading into M49 territory just a little... I did say "little". Nonsense. They don't "bark when bitten" like an M49 does. See the other thread here on the M49 with the link to the Norah Jones song for an audio example of what that is. I haven't bitten mine yet!  |
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Post by Ward on Jun 12, 2016 6:37:26 GMT -6
I'll be amazed if anyone can make a Rode mic of any sort sound like an M49, so go ahead and amaze me, please.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 12, 2016 14:03:33 GMT -6
I picked up this Serpent Splice 500 last week. Having problems with it, though. No/low output set to 100% wet.  |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 12, 2016 14:14:57 GMT -6
Sean, the Cub III is incredible. My Bad Cat Bobcat is cool for playing at home, but the Cub is different, better, and amazing. That said, if you really want the best reverb sound there is, go to Louis Electric's "Columbia", formerly known as the Princetone, I never heard anything better ever. This guy's obnoxious, but hang in there and listen:
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 12, 2016 14:28:17 GMT -6
Ward, I know this sounds crazy, but bear with me. I got an email with a link to a plugin made for a Guage microphone. Guage is a company that sells inexpensive Chinese mic clones. They're actually not bad, good for a few things. The plugin was called Mic Clone, and it had emulations of a M49, U87, U67, U47, C12, 414 U47 FET, AND C800. It was designed with the Guage in mind from what I've gathered. I bought the plugin for $24, just for fun. I tried it on my Blackspade UM-18R, the Soyuz 0-19 FET, and the new Avantone CV-95 tube condenser, (based on the Soundelux 195). My mic and the Soyuz sell for 2 G's, the Avantone, $600. The Mic Clone didn't do anything for the Blackspade, (it already is generally in the Neumann style), or the Soyuz, but man, on the Avantone, damn if the M49 plugin didn't sound quite like an M49! The other mic emulations seemed less like the real thing, too much compression on some, but the M49 emulation is worth 5X the cost of the plug. So, you might in fact "be amazed" for $24 !! :-) What appealed to me about the plugin was that Slate has touted their mic emulations as the future of microphones, with a proprietary mic, preamp and plugins. I've wondered what their emulations would sound like as plugins, without the rest of the package. So at $976 less than the Slate system, I got to see if it might work. I think the Mic Clone could work here and there on an occasional track or two. I'd have to have the Slate system here to know if it's viable. www.finalmix.biz/Final_Mix_Software/Home.html |
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Post by Ward on Jun 12, 2016 16:34:11 GMT -6
Martin John Butler Very curious indeed... cheap chinese crap microphone + this plug in = decent emulation? I gotta hear this. I've actually got one of those MXL 67 microphones in the locker that showed up in a batch buy (and has collected dust ever since). So Do you think that will work with this software?
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