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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 4, 2017 13:26:08 GMT -6
All these years I've been staunchly a Medium kinda guy...but I've got a hankerin' to throw on some Lights - why work so damn hard? Anyone have any strong opinions on either and why?
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Post by 79sg on Aug 4, 2017 13:50:00 GMT -6
I say go for it, what's the worst that can happen? Spend a few bucks on a new set of strings and a few minutes stringing it up. I've used light gauge .012 - .054 for as long as I can remember.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 4, 2017 14:01:25 GMT -6
Well, I'm not scared to do it lol. Just wondering why people might choose lights over mediums. I've traditionally chosen Mediums because there just seems to be more bottom and more dynamics listening while you're playing...but for recording, the lights might be better - little less bottom, easier to play...Do people find that lights don't stay in tune as easily? I guess you have to adjust left hand pressure for intonation a little more than with mediums...
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Post by 79sg on Aug 4, 2017 14:48:06 GMT -6
I have used lights for so long I honestly haven't noticed. The acoustic guitar I play most of the time is a 1981 Guild D25, lots of sentimental attachment to it. The guitar has a lot of bottom so maybe that's why the lights seem to work for me. I find fingerpicking a bit easier with the slightly lighter gauge. By the way, I never thought you were "scared" to try a different gauge I was just trying to encourage you.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 4, 2017 22:58:23 GMT -6
I find it depends on the guitar, my Taylor Doyle Dykes likes the Elixir 0.12's it came with. The D-41 I sold was born for 0.13's. Some necks can't handle 13's. Jimmy Page used very lights strings on his acoustics sometimes, and they sounded great. If I was doing a solo guitar thing like Tony Rice, the 13's are a prerequisite, but in a country rock track, the 12's are clearer and cleaner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 1:23:22 GMT -6
I've tried extra lights, lights, and mediums here. Tried many brands and compositions to, (have finally settled on Martin SP 80/20 12's, but that's for another topic...) Lights just seem to be the best compromise between sound and playability, and they record well. Extra lights were easy to play but sounded weak, didn't seem to get the top resonating properly. Mediums were obviously harder to play, and sounded too boxy/bassy. All on one particular acoustic (I only own one). I've been advised by some people not to use mediums on some acoustics as the tension may be too high over many years and warp the top. Best thing was practising barre chords for a couple of months with mediums on my acoustic, and then going to 9's on an electric.
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Post by mikec on Aug 5, 2017 6:48:34 GMT -6
I always use lights on my OM style guitars but after trying lights on my dreads I always come back to mediums. A pretty decent alternative that works well on both my OM and dread style guitars are the Elixir HD lights. I like the combo of the medium treble with the light bass strings, 13-53. On another note, after playing guitar for over 35 years and trying everything out there I got in on the beta for the Ernie Ball Paradigm strings a while back and have to say that they have now become my favorite acoustic string. I've now used both their light and medium gauges and once I use up my remaining Elixirs I will most likely be switching to these for everything acoustic.
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Post by bluegrassdan on Aug 6, 2017 23:39:32 GMT -6
Bluegrass is a medium gauge world.
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Post by Ward on Aug 8, 2017 11:20:36 GMT -6
Bluegrass is a medium gauge world. What about Tony Rice? Did he get kicked out of the Medium Gauge World?
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Post by stratboy on Aug 11, 2017 17:55:47 GMT -6
Bluegrass is a medium gauge world. What about Tony Rice? Did he get kicked out of the Medium Gauge World? There are exceptions to every rule, and Tony Rice is quite an exception. For me, it's been lights all the way - both my Taylor and my Gibson sound good to me with 12s. On my ancient Yamaha FG-110, I have extra light 11s, but it's a plywood top and sounds bad anyway, in a good way!
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Post by Ward on Aug 11, 2017 23:24:01 GMT -6
What about Tony Rice? Did he get kicked out of the Medium Gauge World? There are exceptions to every rule, and Tony Rice is quite an exception. For me, it's been lights all the way - both my Taylor and my Gibson sound good to me with 12s. On my ancient Yamaha FG-110, I have extra light 11s, but it's a plywood top and sounds bad anyway, in a good way! Perhaps, but in the Bluegrass world, Tony Rice is THE RULE not THE EXCEPTION. If you know what I mean.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Aug 14, 2017 6:06:30 GMT -6
Every acoustic guitar is different. I went through 10 different brands and gauges before settling on Martin 12's on my 000-18. That guitar just seems to perform and sound its best when using those strings.
There is an HD-28v I use a lot that prefers D'Addarrio 13's.
Another D-18 that likes the 12's.
Also depends on what tuning you are playing in. So many variables to have 1 set of strings to use on everything for me.
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Post by Ward on Aug 14, 2017 6:34:38 GMT -6
Every acoustic guitar is different. I went through 10 different brands and gauges before settling on Martin 12's on my 000-18. That guitar just seems to perform and sound its best when using those strings. There is an HD-28v I use a lot that prefers D'Addarrio 13's. Another D-18 that likes the 12's. Also depends on what tuning you are playing in. So many variables to have 1 set of strings to use on everything for me. How about that! I also have one of those Martins (in addition to a 'few' other acoustic guitars) and I've settle on Martin Lifetime 12s as my string of choice for them afterwards... but they do not last a lifetime. They last a week or two tops. Still better!!
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Post by Ward on Aug 14, 2017 6:36:19 GMT -6
P.S. Anyone know if you can get 12-52 gauge sets with a 13 on the 1st string and 16 on the 2nd string? The light gauge work for most but I find for flat picking the 12 on the high e is just too plinky - need a thicker tone for pickin
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Post by svart on Aug 14, 2017 11:11:25 GMT -6
Depends on the guitar. A dark gibson would work well with some light strings, but light strings tend to have more twang and attack and less body. Heavy strings are darker, have less attack and twang and more body and work better on bright Taylors. I think it's good to have a bunch of sets hanging around and seeing which ones work best for a specific guitar.. And which ones work for the song on that guitar too.
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Post by chasmanian on Aug 14, 2017 19:44:15 GMT -6
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Post by iamasound on Aug 22, 2017 2:16:56 GMT -6
After playing guitar for 45 years I would think that I wouldn't be thinking about which string gauge works for me or feel the need to experiment with different brands and new fangled technologies , LOL, but I guess it's a positive. It means that I still have a streak of youthful curiosity and hopefully some residuel exhuberence when it comes to art as well as life in general.
I tried the Elixer 12's on my D-15M and really enjoy the silky feel under my fingers with a whole bunch less squeak than any other strings that I have used. What I needed to warm up to however was the toned down brightness that I have come to expect after a string change, but the tone that these Elixers deliver remain very consistent over a good long while. I do believe I will continue on with them as I have grown to appreciated their even toned longevity. The next I change strings on my 1980 Ibanez J-540 jumbo I will go up to the Elixer 13's from the 12 gauge I have on now. I will be using it for some alternate tuning work, and as I will be dropping down a few strings I feel that the extra tension will be called for as the action is nicely quite low in standard tuning, and instead of adjusting the trussrod to compensate for the slackening of tension, will let the strings do the work of a hex wrench.
On the Noble live Martin SP Phospher Bronze, but here too I will next throw on a set of Elixer 12's. She is such a scrumptious guitar that I could just eat her. My friend Felicia, who is quite proficient at finding the living inner name of inanimate objects, gave her the moniker Taja as her sound is as beautiful, full and even as the reverberation Felicia Rose experienced when she visited the Taj Mahal. Yum.
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Post by longscale on Aug 26, 2017 21:28:03 GMT -6
Depends on the guitar and the desired sound for me. I play around until I find the guage that drives the guitar how it wants to be driven. Lights to me tend to be more shimmery and sparkle. I play mostly old Gibson's and each model seems to call for something different. I do enjoy the fun of tossing new strings on and giving it a run.
I admit for solo blues I tend to go big. I love the power and thump they provide for my dry old Gibson's.
Now don't get me wrong I do still slap lights on a guitar - exactly for the shimmer. No one way works for everything and half the fun is doing something unexpected and finding a song.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 17, 2017 17:02:44 GMT -6
Depnds on the Guitar, on taste as well becasue strings can be diffrent. I most I do not use 12th on acoustics becasue I loose technique.
On most guitars I play Martin Strings 10 or 11th Bronze and Phosphor Bronze.
On my new Adirondack OM I changed that to Dean Markley Vintage Bronze 85/15 copper/zinc and to my surprise not the top end changed drastic, as advertised, I got faster, samler but tighter bases because of the hexagonal kernal - I guess.
Its a journey and you have to try it yourself.
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Post by Ward on Nov 17, 2017 20:30:14 GMT -6
SNIP... I changed that to Dean Markley Vintage Bronze 85/15 copper/zinc Just curious... do they still put the classic sticker in the packages of Dean Markley strings?
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 17, 2017 20:40:47 GMT -6
All these years I've been staunchly a Medium kinda guy...but I've got a hankerin' to throw on some Lights - why work so damn hard? Anyone have any strong opinions on either and why? It depends on the guitar and your hand strength. The bigger the top, the heavier the strings you should use to get that mass moving. However you probably shouldn't use any heavier than you can handle. I'm only using lights on my J-200 (which really wants mediums) because a couple of unfortunate accidents cost me some strength and dexterity.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 18, 2017 6:47:14 GMT -6
SNIP... I changed that to Dean Markley Vintage Bronze 85/15 copper/zinc Just curious... do they still put the classic sticker in the packages of Dean Markley strings? NO SIR.
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