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Post by jeremygillespie on Mar 6, 2018 15:22:03 GMT -6
I’m not sure why it took me so long to try this mod, but I’m glad I finally did it. The 4th position is the 2 pickups together in series, and it’s an amazingly useful sound that I’ve never gotten out of a Tele before. Highly suggest it to anybody that has one!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 7, 2018 15:13:28 GMT -6
Hmm, doesn't the middle position give you a blend of both pickups? I don't understand what the extra switch position would do. Double output?
Forgive me my lack of basic engineering knowledge.
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Post by drc on Mar 7, 2018 15:21:49 GMT -6
Is this four way switch a super/mega switch? I have been looking for another three way to wire my Tele up with my Ilitch coil using a RWRP neck pickup and true parallel in the middle position. If you are doing Series on POS#4, is parallel on POS#3 and Neck on POS#2?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 7, 2018 16:13:16 GMT -6
I have a cheap Squire 51 guitar I use for students. It has a Strat body and a Tele neck, with a standard tele neck pickup and a humbucking double coil bridge pickup. The bridge pickup can be set to single coil when you pull up the volume knob. Recently I had it set up, and the luthier took the neck off, dressed the frets and put it back with perfect intonation. The neck plays like crazy now, and I prefer it to the lovely Aerodyne tele I had, enough for me to sell the Tele and use the Squire 51 as my Fender sound. I have a Les Paul when I want Gibson sounds. The most awkward thing about it is they have a knob to change pickups from front, middle and back. I wonder if I could have a proper Tele switch put in, instead of the knob, which is annoying.   |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 7, 2018 16:34:40 GMT -6
Hmm, doesn't the middle position give you a blend of both pickups? I don't understand what the extra switch position would do. Double output? Forgive me my lack of basic engineering knowledge. Most guitars add the two pickups together in parallel. a few, however, Fender Duo-sonics, old Danelectros (dunno about new ones), a few others, add them in series instead. What's the difference? Well, think about batteries. In parallel two batteries give you the same voltage as one, but twice the current. In Series the two batteries give you double the voltage output with no current increase. Guitar gear is voltage sensitive, so a series arrangement gives you a much stronger, fatter signal in the center position than one pickup alone - or both pickups in parallel. In the old days this was sometimes done when the pickups were lower output, as on the Duo-Sonic, or simply because you can get away with using a cheaper switch in a simple two pickup arrangement. |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 7, 2018 16:40:04 GMT -6
I have a cheap Squire 51 guitar I use for students. It has a Strat body and a Tele neck, with a standard tele neck pickup and a humbucking double coil bridge pickup. The bridge pickup can be set to single coil when you pull up the volume knob. Recently I had it set up, and the luthier took the neck off, dressed the frets and put it back with perfect intonation. The neck plays like crazy now, and I prefer it to the lovely Aerodyne tele I had, enough for me to sell the Tele and use the Squire 51 as my Fender sound. I have a Les Paul when I want Gibson sounds. The most awkward thing about it is they have a knob to change pickups from front, middle and back. I wonder if I could have a proper Tele switch put in, instead of the knob, which is annoying. Sure. Probably need a longer control cavity to accommodate the Telly plate. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Mar 9, 2018 21:40:37 GMT -6
I have a 5 way 4 deck switch in my Tele Thinline. I got it from All parts. It adds the series position along with an out of phase position besides the regular 3 pickup choices. The out of phase is super funky and nasal. All Parts has the 4 way switch too. www.allparts.com |
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Post by Ward on Mar 16, 2018 10:08:27 GMT -6
I have 2 of my Tele's done with 4-way switches and LOVE the 4th position!!
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Post by jeremygillespie on Mar 20, 2018 8:13:05 GMT -6
Hmm, doesn't the middle position give you a blend of both pickups? I don't understand what the extra switch position would do. Double output? Forgive me my lack of basic engineering knowledge. The normal middle tele position takes both pickups and sends them to the output at the same time, where they are the combined. The 4th position on the switch combines the pickups in series - basically turning them into 1 pickup with twice the output. It’s a completely different sound and adds even more versatility to a tele. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Mar 20, 2018 8:16:49 GMT -6
I have a cheap Squire 51 guitar I use for students. It has a Strat body and a Tele neck, with a standard tele neck pickup and a humbucking double coil bridge pickup. The bridge pickup can be set to single coil when you pull up the volume knob. Recently I had it set up, and the luthier took the neck off, dressed the frets and put it back with perfect intonation. The neck plays like crazy now, and I prefer it to the lovely Aerodyne tele I had, enough for me to sell the Tele and use the Squire 51 as my Fender sound. I have a Les Paul when I want Gibson sounds. The most awkward thing about it is they have a knob to change pickups from front, middle and back. I wonder if I could have a proper Tele switch put in, instead of the knob, which is annoying. View AttachmentView AttachmentSo what are the controls on that guitar? A pickup switch rotary pot and a volume? You could always just take out the knob and put a les Paul style switch in there and wire it up. Oooor... Turn it into a master volume / master tone, and then add a 3 way (or 4 way) switch for the pickups. Ooooor... If you don’t mess with tone knobs you can just make them both volumes and dial in your tone from there. So many options with guitar wiring. The Seymour Duncan site has cool schematics and ideas for many setups. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 20, 2018 10:46:23 GMT -6
Right now to switch pickups, I have to turn a knob that clicks for neck, middle and bridge positions. It's counterintuitive and annoying.
I'd like it to be a 3 way or 5 way switch. Now that you've got me thinking on it, it would be even cooler to have the knob be for Tone, and add a Tele style switch..
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Post by jimwilliams on Mar 21, 2018 11:13:08 GMT -6
Try the Gibson L6-S wiring. That is a 6 way rotary switch that does all the combinations.
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Post by jakeboy on Jan 23, 2019 9:22:26 GMT -6
Yeah! I love the 4 way on my Tele type and love to hit that series position for a thicker, powerful sound. I use Rumpelstiltskin Original Black Knight pickups and really love the tone.
My fave Tele sound is the chimey middle position in parallel...but switching to the series position is great for leads.
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Post by lcr on Feb 4, 2019 18:06:02 GMT -6
I just wired one with a 4 way, I dig it. Its beefy, almost like a neck humbucker? I used Fralin’s wiring instead of Fender’s that came with the Fender switch.
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Post by geoff738 on Feb 21, 2019 16:52:30 GMT -6
Love the 4 way. All my traditional pickup Teles have one.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by mattbroiler on Jun 27, 2019 21:21:03 GMT -6
I put the 4 way switch on my G&L Tele and it's a very useful extra combination to have - it's a tad louder in series.
Also I flipped the control plate ala Bill Kirchen because I really don't like the switch in the standard location
I find it more playable with the volume / tone right below the bridge and the switch out of the way on the side
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