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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 24, 2018 21:27:06 GMT -6
Decisions, decisions...I am backing an Irish Pop/Folk artist. I need a combo tube amp for him. I was looking at the Morgan AC20, Fender 65/68 custom or a Fender 57 custom. I was looking at the Fender 64, however that fender 68 Rivera custom mod sounds killer! I think this project needs a nice Fender sound. Not sure the stock fender amps can give me the sound I want. What can I do to get that classic fender clean with a little bit of grit, takes pedals, and still be able to compete with a drum set live without it breaking up as much when you get near 4 on the volume? Basically, start breaking up at a little higher volume before it starts breaking up.
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 24, 2018 22:33:19 GMT -6
Might be a little too dirty for you but I really like the Fender Blues Junior 1x12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 1:27:13 GMT -6
I had similar requirements a few years ago and went with a custom build from Vyse Amps based on a DR, but with loads of mods/extras. Came in at about £1k. Sounds great.
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Post by Ned Ward on Apr 25, 2018 8:51:20 GMT -6
Princeton Reverb, with Pull Boost Volume mod (IIRC 74 on, mine's a 77). Electronically almost identical to early Blackface version, but sell for a lot less. Just don't use the Pull boost. Takes pedals well; with a change in speaker you can get earlier or later breakup.
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Post by johneppstein on Apr 25, 2018 14:12:58 GMT -6
Deluxe Reverb. A bit more headroom and power than a Princeton.
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Post by Ward on May 3, 2018 17:05:42 GMT -6
Dr. Z M<az Junior (18 watt)
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Post by Ward on May 3, 2018 17:06:24 GMT -6
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Post by jimwilliams on May 4, 2018 9:10:49 GMT -6
A friend put a '67 Showman head inside his '74 Deluxe reverb cab. Yes, it fits. It's a mean, lean machine now.
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Post by Ward on May 4, 2018 9:48:47 GMT -6
A friend put a '67 Showman head inside his '74 Deluxe reverb cab. Yes, it fits. It's a mean, lean machine now. Isn't that like dropping a 426 Hemi into a Chevette? |
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Post by svart on May 4, 2018 12:08:19 GMT -6
Deluxe Reverb. A bit more headroom and power than a Princeton. Agreed. An all-around workhorse amp and if anything goes wrong you can find another one just about anywhere. |
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Post by Ned Ward on May 4, 2018 12:10:41 GMT -6
A friend put a '67 Showman head inside his '74 Deluxe reverb cab. Yes, it fits. It's a mean, lean machine now. Isn't that like dropping a 426 Hemi into a Chevette? You say it like it's a bad thing... I dropped a Bandmaster head into a 2x12 open backed cab to make it into a combo - good stuff! Didn't realize the showman and Deluxe reverb chassis were the same dimensions. Maz 18 Jr. is also a great choice - don't let the 18 watts fool you. It's louder than a Deluxe Reverb. |
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Post by swurveman on May 4, 2018 12:54:24 GMT -6
Deluxe Reverb. A bit more headroom and power than a Princeton. Agreed. An all-around workhorse amp and if anything goes wrong you can find another one just about anywhere. Are you guys talking about the '65 Deluxe Reverb reissue first introduced in 1993, or the '68 Custom Deluxe Reverb released in 2013? |
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Post by guitfiddler on May 4, 2018 16:47:26 GMT -6
Agreed. An all-around workhorse amp and if anything goes wrong you can find another one just about anywhere. Are you guys talking about the '65 Deluxe Reverb reissue first introduced in 1993, or the '68 Custom Deluxe Reverb released in 2013? I really like the sound of the 65(more spanky, gritty), however it breaks up too early. I guess the Reissue breaks up even sooner. I did look into putting a different speaker that breaks up later. I love the Fender Deluxe 64, the Rivera Modded 68 Custom, and the 65. Thanks guys. I will look at the DR. Z Maz 18. I have to revisit this amp, it's been a while since I heard one of these. |
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Post by johneppstein on May 4, 2018 19:44:33 GMT -6
Agreed. An all-around workhorse amp and if anything goes wrong you can find another one just about anywhere. Are you guys talking about the '65 Deluxe Reverb reissue first introduced in 1993, or the '68 Custom Deluxe Reverb released in 2013? Funny. I'm talking about the AB763 Deluxe Reverb released in 1964. |
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Post by jimwilliams on May 5, 2018 13:04:25 GMT -6
I have one of those AB763 Deluxe Reverb amps in mint condition, a 1966 model. Great amp but it was never a contender playing out live. It can not keep up with a strong drummer. Mine was modified with 100 watt transformers and a pair of GE 6550 power tubes running at 500 volts. It does about 75 watts and that does work with a live band.
Otherwise, my pair of AB763 Showman heads always filled the room. It fills out a Deluxe Reverb cabinet well too. Cranked it sounds like Clapton with Cream when he used a 335 into a Showman or Hendrix live at Devonshire Downs when he used 6 Dual Showman amps (and a great live recording too).
I recently rebuilt 4 new re-issue Fender Deluxe Reverb amps for Dwight Yoakum. Those are not like the AB763's, they are a pcb amp with cheap parts. I did have to rebuild them to sort of sound like Pete Anderson's modified '64 Deluxe used on all those hit records. The new Fender amps are really disappointing. It's worth finding the real deal over a look-a-like at Guitar center.
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