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Axe FX III
Feb 23, 2020 21:15:22 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 23, 2020 21:15:22 GMT -6
What’s the deal with used pricing on the Axe FX III? Can’t hardly find anyone selling them for under 18 or 1900, and by the time you factor in shipping and tax, it’s close to the current new price, if not over. Warranties don’t transfer to second owners, so that’s something to consider as well. It’s always been like $2400 new. Are they still offering at $1999? |
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Axe FX III
Feb 23, 2020 21:42:40 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 23, 2020 21:42:40 GMT -6
What’s the deal with used pricing on the Axe FX III? Can’t hardly find anyone selling them for under 18 or 1900, and by the time you factor in shipping and tax, it’s close to the current new price, if not over. Warranties don’t transfer to second owners, so that’s something to consider as well. It’s always been like $2400 new. Are they still offering at $1999? Ah. Yeah, it’s been at $2k since the holiday sales. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 6, 2020 19:49:39 GMT -6
Finally got around to trying out bass with this thing. Really excellent. Ampeg SVT through an 8x10 can.
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Post by svart on Mar 7, 2020 11:36:34 GMT -6
Finally got around to trying out bass with this thing. Really excellent. Ampeg SVT through an 8x10 can. I built a svt rig in mine, compared it to the real thing.. it's pretty close. I think the hardware had a little more grunt, but not noticable in a mix. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 7, 2020 11:48:23 GMT -6
Finally got around to trying out bass with this thing. Really excellent. Ampeg SVT through an 8x10 can. I built a svt rig in mine, compared it to the real thing.. it's pretty close. I think the hardware had a little more grunt, but not noticable in a mix. I bet there's a way to dial that grunt in with all those freaking parameters. I have no idea what all the parameters in the Power amp and power supply section even do... |
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Post by askomiko on Mar 10, 2020 4:12:43 GMT -6
They all increase the whatamabob induction fluffiness, no matter which way you turn the knobs.
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Post by Jason on Mar 10, 2020 6:08:37 GMT -6
Damn you, ladies and gentlemen of RGO (looking at you, John and Herb)...owned the Axe II in 2015, not sure why the hell I got rid of it...Axe III is scheduled for delivery tomorrow...
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2020 8:16:28 GMT -6
Damn you, ladies and gentlemen of RGO (looking at you, John and Herb)...owned the Axe II in 2015, not sure why the hell I got rid of it...Axe III is scheduled for delivery tomorrow... I should really get paid for the amount of hype I give it...but it’s the most transformative piece of guitar gear I’ve ever bought. |
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Post by askomiko on Mar 10, 2020 9:48:02 GMT -6
They have an Axe3 with your name on it... Do iiiit!  |
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Post by mikec on Mar 10, 2020 12:16:18 GMT -6
Other than my Symphony MKII interface, the AXE FX III is the most used gear in my studio. I use it every single day for something. The thing is pretty amazing.
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Post by matt on Mar 10, 2020 13:03:02 GMT -6
Axe III is scheduled for delivery tomorrow... it’s the most transformative piece of guitar gear I’ve ever bought. Yes. It has proven to me that modeling works when done right. Cliff and the team at Fractal have something special going on, and we are the beneficiaries of their excellence. |
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Axe FX III
Mar 10, 2020 17:11:23 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2020 17:11:23 GMT -6
Just reading in the FM3 section of the fractal forum, I see people talking about the lack of power compared to the AxeIII. Not sure it’s a problem, but it definitely makes using an entire pedalboard a little difficult. But you could use this and a couple of other pedals and it would be a monster.
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Post by matt on Mar 10, 2020 18:51:44 GMT -6
IMO having the processor on the floor gives no real advantage given how good the AF3 effects are. The thing makes pedals largely redundant. The FC foot controllers are excellent and with the FC6 or 12/AF3 rig you have all the processing power and no audio running on the floor- it's all in the rack that could be as small as three spaces. I run a Voodoo Lab Hex to switch in pedals but I'm slowly migrating over to all AF3 effects instead. The only pedal that it cant quite match is a Shin-Ei Vibe Bro. That box has strange powers.
So for gigging you'd have an FC footswitch, a rack with the AF3, and 1 or 2 powered cabinets. Run wireless to the rack and rock. So simple, yet sooooo powerful. With the FM3 you'd probably still want to run some pedals along side on a pedalboard. The question is: why? Yes it's less expensive but you get what you pay for. And killer pedals are usually not cheap these days, so in the end the overall cost is probably similar. Ask me how I know.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 10, 2020 20:12:23 GMT -6
Damn you, ladies and gentlemen of RGO (looking at you, John and Herb)...owned the Axe II in 2015, not sure why the hell I got rid of it...Axe III is scheduled for delivery tomorrow... Do you have an Iridium as well? |
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Axe FX III
Mar 10, 2020 22:22:33 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2020 22:22:33 GMT -6
IMO having the processor on the floor gives no real advantage given how good the AF3 effects are. The thing makes pedals largely redundant. The FC foot controllers are excellent and with the FC6 or 12/AF3 rig you have all the processing power and no audio running on the floor- it's all in the rack that could be as small as three spaces. I run a Voodoo Lab Hex to switch in pedals but I'm slowly migrating over to all AF3 effects instead. The only pedal that it cant quite match is a Shin-Ei Vibe Bro. That box has strange powers. So for gigging you'd have an FC footswitch, a rack with the AF3, and 1 or 2 powered cabinets. Run wireless to the rack and rock. So simple, yet sooooo powerful. With the FM3 you'd probably still want to run some pedals along side on a pedalboard. The question is: why? Yes it's less expensive but you get what you pay for. And killer pedals are usually not cheap these days, so in the end the overall cost is probably similar. Ask me how I know. Knew that pedal sounded familiar...reminded me of playing with the “astable” control in the phaser block. Austin Buddy mentions the Shin-ei here. forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/how-can-i-program-the-phaser-block-to-sound-like-this.148269/post-1758279 |
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Post by matt on Mar 10, 2020 23:18:59 GMT -6
The only pedal that it cant quite match is a Shin-Ei Vibe Bro. That box has strange powers. Knew that pedal sounded familiar Austin Buddy's tips are good and get close to that sound. But there's something unique about the Shin-Ei. It's effect is so thick, dense, and yes, throbby. The AF3 vibe model is actually cleaner with no real noise floor. Maybe that's it- the model is not dirty enough. But for most users, I would rate the AF3 version as definitely close enough. |
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Post by Jason on Mar 11, 2020 3:26:15 GMT -6
Damn you, ladies and gentlemen of RGO (looking at you, John and Herb)...owned the Axe II in 2015, not sure why the hell I got rid of it...Axe III is scheduled for delivery tomorrow... Do you have an Iridium as well? Yes, sir. Have created useable sounds from it and Scuffham. For me, Kemper was too much work. YMMV. Same with Tonehub and Neural, each are glitchy on my system with inexplicable pops and clicks at various settings. From past experience, I feel like I know what I’m getting with the Fractal - versatility, immediately useable with an endless library of tones (tweaker’s delight, if you’re so inclined), and the only kit of it’s kind that I’ve ever toyed with that doesn’t make me miss the real thing. My $0.02. I’m also reminded that both Iridium and S-Gear are pretty fantastic for what they do...there’s options for all of us, only limited by our own skills and imagination...what a great time to pick, grin and bare it! |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 11, 2020 4:43:47 GMT -6
Do you have an Iridium as well? Yes, sir. Have created useable sounds from it and Scuffham. For me, Kemper was too much work. YMMV. Same with Tonehub and Neural, each are glitchy on my system with inexplicable pops and clicks at various settings. From past experience, I feel like I know what I’m getting with the Fractal - versatility, immediately useable with an endless library of tones (tweaker’s delight, if you’re so inclined), and the only kit of it’s kind that I’ve ever toyed with that doesn’t make me miss the real thing. My $0.02. I’m also reminded that both Iridium and S-Gear are pretty fantastic for what they do...there’s options for all of us, only limited by our own skills and imagination...what a great time to pick, grin and bare it! I’d love to hear your thoughts about the Axe III compared to the Iridium when you get the chance! |
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Post by guitfiddler on Mar 12, 2020 9:26:11 GMT -6
Can anyone compare the UAD bass plugins to the Axe FX III?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 12, 2020 13:22:17 GMT -6
Can anyone compare the UAD bass plugins to the Axe FX III? I did pretty extensively with the SVT and thought the Axe was better. |
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Axe FX III
Mar 12, 2020 13:58:43 GMT -6
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Post by guitfiddler on Mar 12, 2020 13:58:43 GMT -6
Can anyone compare the UAD bass plugins to the Axe FX III? I did pretty extensively with the SVT and thought the Axe was better. Thanks. I couldn’t get along at all with any of the UAD guitar plugs, but I have been experimenting with the ampeg bass plugs and I can get them to work. I really like the videos and what I heard so far of the Axe FX 3, but haven’t had any real world, hands on?experience with it yet. |
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Post by svart on Mar 12, 2020 14:11:42 GMT -6
Can anyone compare the UAD bass plugins to the Axe FX III? No experience with the UAD, but I mentioned earlier that I do have a hardware SVT rig and the AXE 3 is 98% similar once you dial things in a little. It lacks a little of the speaker grunt but it gets the soul right. I was even tweaking the SVT head wondering why it wasn't changing as much as I thought. Turns out I was still plugged into the AXE 3. |
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Post by Jason on Mar 12, 2020 14:57:24 GMT -6
While you may or may not agree with some of his tonal decisions, I really appreciate Tom's approach to crafting presets.
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Post by donr on Mar 12, 2020 23:41:56 GMT -6
While you may or may not agree with some of his tonal decisions, I really appreciate Tom's approach to crafting presets. Jason, thanks for this video. I don't think I've ever heard an Ibanez solid body sound that good. Super player Tom is too. I've got about 12 hours on my AxeFXIII, and I'm still a Cubscout. Fuggin' tenderfoot. Don't know how to save an edited scene as a new scene, or ABC or D. Never mind, I'm recording with some simple tweaks of factory presets. A couple of this-video takeaways from a newbie to AxeFX: One, the master volume in the amp block is more than a level control, it gives you control of the power amp drive, whether or not the amp model had one. Din't utilize that yet, hadn't looked there for beef in a preset with amps that didn't include it originally. Two, the Hi cut in the preamp tab, and again in the cab block. The models have all the tizz of the modeled electronics, and rolling off top as Tom points out, gets you into the room with the amp. Three, including the room tone in the sound you intend to record. Tom uses it here to enhance the experience of playing, but you know a sound with a helping of the room vibe would enhance your recordings without looking further for ambiences. You can get the equivalent of creative mic'ing with the cab IR's and 'verb. I'd begun to do this with cabs that have distance or OH mic'ing. Awesome. |
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Post by svart on Mar 13, 2020 8:10:49 GMT -6
While you may or may not agree with some of his tonal decisions, I really appreciate Tom's approach to crafting presets. Jason, thanks for this video. I don't think I've ever heard an Ibanez solid body sound that good. Super player Tom is too. I've got about 12 hours on my AxeFXIII, and I'm still a Cubscout. Fuggin' tenderfoot. Don't know how to save an edited scene as a new scene, or ABC or D. Never mind, I'm recording with some simple tweaks of factory presets. A couple of this-video takeaways from a newbie to AxeFX: One, the master volume in the amp block is more than a level control, it gives you control of the power amp drive, whether or not the amp model had one. Din't utilize that yet, hadn't looked there for beef in a preset with amps that didn't include it originally. Two, the Hi cut in the preamp tab, and again in the cab block. The models have all the tizz of the modeled electronics, and rolling off top as Tom points out, gets you into the room with the amp. Three, including the room tone in the sound you intend to record. Tom uses it here to enhance the experience of playing, but you know a sound with a helping of the room vibe would enhance your recordings without looking further for ambiences. You can get the equivalent of creative mic'ing with the cab IR's and 'verb. I'd begun to do this with cabs that have distance or OH mic'ing. Awesome. I've found that twiddling with the low EQ and depth knobs will reduce muddiness and you can go into the additional settings for the cabs and turn up the proximity which gives it back more low end, but with a more rounded attack. Makes things sound thicker but clearer at the same time. I also like using the low pass on the cab to cut fizz rather than using the amp EQ as it doesn't dull it as much. I have noticed the master volume will almost always add more low frequencies to most of the amps, but I've not had that drastic of an effect in real life. |
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