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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 18, 2018 18:30:03 GMT -6
Have any of you heard the differences between the 2x6 vs. the 2x6 SE on the Apogee Symphony MK2 that have upgraded? Can you hear a big difference between these two cards?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 18, 2018 18:37:02 GMT -6
Other than them being 2x6, aren't they completely different converters etc. ? MikeC here has the SE.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 18, 2018 19:29:36 GMT -6
Other than them being 2x6, aren't they completely different converters etc. ? MikeC here has the SE. The specs are different, just curious if it is night and day difference and worth the upgrade? I’m using a mastering converter anyway going out of the daw analog, however if I can improve the analog output specs it will be better going to my mastering AD Converter. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 18, 2018 19:32:34 GMT -6
Unless the marketing is all hyperbole, I would think the answer, yes, significantly different sonically.
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Post by aremos on Oct 18, 2018 19:43:41 GMT -6
They (Apogee) told me that the SE converters are the latest & different ("mastering quality") than anything else & only come in that new 2x6 SE card. Since I haven't tried them yet I'm also very curious to hear feedback from users here.
Also curious about how would you grade Apogee converters in general - compared to Prism, Merging, DAD, Lavry, Mytek, etc.? Having used Apogee for a very long time (and still using them) I keep running into some (on the other site) who argue with me that they're "not at the top now" as those other ones mentioned.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 18, 2018 20:10:15 GMT -6
They (Apogee) told me that the SE converters are the latest & different ("mastering quality") than anything else & only come in that new 2x6 SE card. Since I haven't tried them yet I'm also very curious to hear feedback from users here.
Also curious about how would you grade Apogee converters in general - compared to Prism, Merging, DAD, Lavry, Mytek, etc.? Having used Apogee for a very long time (and still using them) I keep running into some (on the other site) who argue with me that they're "not at the top now" as those other ones mentioned.
A constant keeping up with the latest greatest is expensive. I’ve been on the converter kick for some time now and almost ready to find a system that works for me for the next 5-10 years.. Looking at the Apogee Symphony mk 2 |
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Post by aremos on Oct 18, 2018 20:19:45 GMT -6
Same here! Eyeing (& wanting) the Apogee S MkII but open to suggestions - specially since Eric & Bill stated that they'd go with the AVID (I/O) per reassurance with PT.
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Post by yotonic on Oct 18, 2018 22:00:03 GMT -6
I am running the Symphony MKII SE with two of the 2x6 mastering modules in it and I love it. I definitely notice the difference. My favorite converters yet, and I have owned Burl, Lavry, Symphony MKI, UA, and more. The sound and conversion is excellent, much better than any other Apogee product I have ever owned. I'm done searching. I actually track with it too, the latency is super low with Logic & Pro Tools and the interface is simple to use with both hands on features and software controls.  |
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 18, 2018 22:51:10 GMT -6
Hmm. Could you run one of these with a 16x16 analog in/out and a 2x6 SE in the same chassis?
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 18, 2018 22:52:42 GMT -6
I am running the Symphony MKII SE with two of the 2x6 mastering modules in it and I love it. I definitely notice the difference. My favorite converters yet, and I have owned Burl, Lavry, Symphony MKI, UA, and more. The sound and conversion is excellent, much better than any other Apogee product I have ever owned. I'm done searching. I actually track with it too, the latency is super low with Logic & Pro Tools and the interface is simple to use with both hands on features and software controls. View AttachmentI’m definitely sold on the Apogee Smk2, moving on from a 16x S Thunderbridge system. I really liked the workflow and a really low latency the symphony system offered. I did some experimenting with other brand converters and although I haven’t heard the Apogee S Mk2 myself, but from what I’m hearing from other trusted ears, it’s a go....that’s so purdy looking!!! |
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Post by yotonic on Oct 18, 2018 22:54:45 GMT -6
Hmm. Could you run one of these with a 16x16 analog in/out and a 2x6 SE in the same chassis? I don't see why not. |
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Post by ragan on Oct 18, 2018 22:57:40 GMT -6
I was pretty much sold on the Symph MKII since hearing it (in my opinion) trounce the Avid box in a comparison that's floating around here somewhere. I've been really really happy with it, AD and DA. I think it's a beautiful interface.
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 18, 2018 23:04:39 GMT -6
Hmm. Could you run one of these with a 16x16 analog in/out and a 2x6 SE in the same chassis? I don't see why not. Hm. that would be a pretty stellar setup for a hybrid mixing/mastering setup Id think. How loud is the fan? Sucker is expensive too..damn haha |
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Post by yotonic on Oct 18, 2018 23:07:28 GMT -6
I've never ever heard the fan even come on. The SE is expensive but one of those pieces you will never regret buying. One of the few converters where a side by side test isn't even necessary. You hear it right away.
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 18, 2018 23:28:01 GMT -6
I've never ever heard the fan even come on. The SE is expensive but one of those pieces you will never regret buying. One of the few converters where a side by side test isn't even necessary. You hear it right away. Hm well thats comforting. I just meant in general the Symphony is pricey. |
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Post by ragan on Oct 18, 2018 23:51:32 GMT -6
I've never heard my fan either. I'm only running 8x8 FWIW.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 19, 2018 1:49:27 GMT -6
Are you guys using the Apogee DA for your monitoring and headphone cues, or a dedicated monitor controller?
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Post by ragan on Oct 19, 2018 2:38:41 GMT -6
Using the Symph.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 19, 2018 5:29:06 GMT -6
I have had 2 apollos, the bla mod, a burl b2, and 2192 and now Symphony MKII: it is my favourite and have had the 8 and 16, also never heard fan come on. I think the comments elsewhere about the soft top end have some merit but sonically I really value the Symphony MKII and it’s dimenionslity and soundstage. I am doing my best work with it. The 2x6 se card also adds back the i/o the 16x16 lacks and would be an excellent 18 ad da configuration. I am curious about aurora though: guitfiddler do note the two 16 aurora used for less than one new Symphony MKII 16!  |
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Post by mikec on Oct 19, 2018 7:54:58 GMT -6
Hmm. Could you run one of these with a 16x16 analog in/out and a 2x6 SE in the same chassis? This is the setup I have. I started with the Symphony MKII 16x16 and a couple of months ago added the 2x6SE module. Sold my Dangerous Dbox and now monitor everything through the 2x6SE module. The summed feed from my 2Bus+ also returns to my DAW via the 2x6SE. After using the Lynx Aurora, Metric Halo ULN8, all of the black face Apollos, and other various interfaces, I am very satisfied. I have my Symphony racked in a dual bay Argosy rack that sits next to my recording desk and I never hear the fan run on my Symphony. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2018 8:29:48 GMT -6
Courious, anybody compare the latency of the SE and regular MK II cards?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 19, 2018 8:38:52 GMT -6
As Apogee recommends both in the same chassis: doesn’t that suggests latency is not an issue ?
MikeC ever multed a signal to ii and se and compared waves in the daw: any difference in start point vs time?
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 23, 2018 1:01:01 GMT -6
I have had 2 apollos, the bla mod, a burl b2, and 2192 and now Symphony MKII: it is my favourite and have had the 8 and 16, also never heard fan come on. I think the comments elsewhere about the soft top end have some merit but sonically I really value the Symphony MKII and it’s dimenionslity and soundstage. I am doing my best work with it. The 2x6 se card also adds back the i/o the 16x16 lacks and would be an excellent 18 ad da configuration. I am curious about aurora though: guitfiddler do note the two 16 aurora used for less than one new Symphony MKII 16! Thanks, but I’m definitely sold on the Apogee. My 16x Symphony system has finally reached the end of the road for me. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 23, 2018 5:06:03 GMT -6
no probs: I like my symphony mkii 16 a lot and would like the SE 2x6, be great for adding 2 even better channels (so 18 in total) and to use them for monitor outs as well.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 23, 2018 12:26:27 GMT -6
no probs: I like my symphony mkii 16 a lot and would like the SE 2x6, be great for adding 2 even better channels (so 18 in total) and to use them for monitor outs as well. . That is exactly my intention |
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