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Post by chasmanian on Feb 9, 2016 7:06:53 GMT -6
That would be a proper :-) way to connect your gear, and you would clock the babyface slaved to the svart ADC. But i would go from the svart DA directly to the K&Hs, which i assume are active monitors or use a passive monitor controller maybe, so you get maximum fidelity. thank you so much for your reply. and yes my K&Hs are active. they're the smaller, maybe O110. like 5" speakers. I am curious about the DA side now for my K&H monitors. I have been going: s/pdif OUT from the Babyface > Schiit Audio DA > Schiit Audio headphone amp. the headphone amp is really great for my headphones while monitoring myself recording. the Babyface's headphone amp is just not loud enough for me. but as for hooking up the K&H monitors, the Schiit Audio DA only has one output. so I run it to the headphone amp, which has an additional output: so, 1 headphone output, and then rca jacks left and right, which I run to the K&Hs. the only other alternative I have right now would be to go straight from the Babyface to the K&H's. do you think its possible, that doing it that way is equally good? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 8:00:53 GMT -6
That would be a proper :-) way to connect your gear, and you would clock the babyface slaved to the svart ADC. But i would go from the svart DA directly to the K&Hs, which i assume are active monitors or use a passive monitor controller maybe, so you get maximum fidelity. thank you so much for your reply. and yes my K&Hs are active. they're the smaller, maybe O110. like 5" speakers. I am curious about the DA side now for my K&H monitors. I have been going: s/pdif OUT from the Babyface > Schiit Audio DA > Schiit Audio headphone amp. the headphone amp is really great for my headphones while monitoring myself recording. the Babyface's headphone amp is just not loud enough for me. but as for hooking up the K&H monitors, the Schiit Audio DA only has one output. so I run it to the headphone amp, which has an additional output: so, 1 headphone output, and then rca jacks left and right, which I run to the K&Hs. the only other alternative I have right now would be to go straight from the Babyface to the K&H's. do you think its possible, that doing it that way is equally good? Well, i have no clue how neutral the headphone amp is that you are using. Personally, i use a stepped passive monitor controller (McOne with the rotary switch and not stepped pot option), where i can switch to different outputs. I.e. my K&H 3way nearfielders or the hi-end chain of Plinius amp and Sonus Faber speakers or headphone amp to the beloved Sennheisers. I think you should bypass the headphone amp on the way to the KHs. A passive monitor controller is perfect for this task. PCM1794a converters with really good opamps, like the svart are pretty high fidelity and i have yet to see K&Hs that don't sound good. So i really think you would have a benefit from this... |
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Post by chasmanian on Feb 9, 2016 8:32:10 GMT -6
hey smallbutfine,
super grateful for you to take the time to reply to me, eh?
ok, I do not understand the Monitor controller concept.
how or why is it necessary?
whats the difference, if were to just pull down (or raise) the fader in my DAW (Reaper), on the Master track?
there's something I'm missing understanding here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 8:52:56 GMT -6
Ah, ok. So, sure you can use the digital control in the DAW, nothing wrong with that. The monitor controller is not only volume control, but also control of different inputs and outputs, has a mute as an "emergency break", collapsing to mono with one switch, doesn't color and is very handy as a whole. You can even use it to AB signals on the inputs. And you have no need to use more than one quality DAC but switch to the different chains without dis- and reconnecting cables.
OK, there is no absolute need for one, but on the other hand especially passive monitor controllers are not expensive at all, in fact it is only connectors and resistors in the end...
And one with rotary switch is also much longer lasting as one with pots and you have a long time of practical use. I would really miss passive monitor controllers... simple but effective tools.
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Post by chasmanian on Feb 9, 2016 9:39:37 GMT -6
awesome, man.
wow!!
thank you so much for your reply.
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 9:27:48 GMT -6
Well shit.
I can't explain what happened, but my battery backup on my main computer just literally blew up.
It took out my computer, and the backup harddrive that was doing backups.
These were the only two places I had the final firmware for the converters.. Sooo.. I'm not sure what's going to happen now.
BOTH harddrives will not recognize in another computer now.
Man, if I have to re-write the firmware for these things I'm going to be very upset.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 9:56:02 GMT -6
Ugh
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 11, 2016 9:58:26 GMT -6
...for anyone looking for a Svartbox, I have one for sale. $3600 shipped and PayPal'd. Super rare and impossible to find!  |
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 10:03:56 GMT -6
There still might be a chance I can read from the micro and then copy to another, bypassing the standard way of programming them.. But who knows right now, there is so much fucked up by this happening I can't think straight.
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Post by chasmanian on Feb 11, 2016 10:05:25 GMT -6
I read recently of a temporary way to make HDDs work.
Put them in the freezer for awhile.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 11, 2016 10:07:19 GMT -6
There still might be a chance I can read from the micro and then copy to another, bypassing the standard way of programming them.. But who knows right now, there is so much fucked up by this happening I can't think straight. Sucks huge man. Good luck. |
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 10:08:33 GMT -6
I read recently of a temporary way to make HDDs work. Put them in the freezer for awhile. I tried that. The primary drive only makes clicking sounds. I've found and purchased a working identical model of HDD and will try swapping the controller board first, maybe it'll work long enough to get files off of it. |
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 10:10:07 GMT -6
There still might be a chance I can read from the micro and then copy to another, bypassing the standard way of programming them.. But who knows right now, there is so much fucked up by this happening I can't think straight. Sucks huge man. Good luck. I guess the moral is to back up online as well, because a standard backup hard drive can get messed up just as easy as the internal drive can. It's just totally unbelievable that this would happen exactly when I go to back up. What are the freaking odds? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 10:12:23 GMT -6
Good luck, man.
Had such a disaster a few years ago, due to a ground fault produced by an incompetent electrician, sucks big time.
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 10:16:40 GMT -6
The disbelief has now turned to anger. I'm just vibrating I'm so pissed!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 10:18:41 GMT -6
... and yes, very important information, documents, work goes up in the cloud AND USB3 drive. (Backup is fast, minimal risk of failure + redundance to really be sure.)
Other tactics is buying 2 or 3 /disconnected/ external harddisks. Backup in "(grandfather),father,son" principle, each day another drive rotational, maximum loss is one day of data/work.
Been there and it sucks big time, i know....
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Post by chasmanian on Feb 11, 2016 11:02:56 GMT -6
I read recently of a temporary way to make HDDs work. Put them in the freezer for awhile. I tried that. The primary drive only makes clicking sounds. I've found and purchased a working identical model of HDD and will try swapping the controller board first, maybe it'll work long enough to get files off of it. I'm no whiz at any of this. That said, and roger what you said, my forte is troubleshooting and repairing. Only saying for the heck of it: Mindful though I've never done the freezer technique.......... Google it. Maybe you could try leaving the drives in the freezer for a longer time? Just brainstorming, eh? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 11:10:46 GMT -6
...for anyone looking for a Svartbox, I have one for sale. $3600 shipped and PayPal'd. Super rare and impossible to find! BWAHHHAAA - I was totally thinking the same thing. No offense, svart. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 11:13:00 GMT -6
Aren't there companies/services out there that recover for a living? Maybe you can do what they could do, though.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 11:14:44 GMT -6
They're the Dumble of the converter world...
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 11:50:18 GMT -6
Aren't there companies/services out there that recover for a living? Maybe you can do what they could do, though. Yeah, but their chances of recovering from a hardware failed drive is low, and expensive.. I'm investigating ALL options right now. 1. Swap boards on drives.. Sometimes this works.. it would be the ideal solution.. 2. Recovery service.. They may or may not try swapping the platters/heads/boards into a working identical drive.. Chances are low, prices are high.. 3. Swap this the platters into an identical drive myself.. Chances are low, cost is low.. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 12:18:25 GMT -6
Dude - I'm sorry...The Svartbox can't die! You can't leave this to the RM's of the world! (I'm kidding, Tony)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 12:25:32 GMT -6
They all cook with boiled water is a saying here. The specialists do exactly this: They buy minimum 1 drive from EVERY harddisk on the market. This is not cheap and the drives must be carefully stored and intact. And yes - normally they only swap boards. Everything else is already in the realm of hardcore forensics, like changing platters into a working drive and really, really expensive. We had such a service for our company, and they restored data from cooked notebook drives and the like. Cheapest bill i have seen from them was 3000 Euros....  Upwards there is no limit. In the earlier days of computer forensics they even dropped oil on the partly destroyed magnetized disks and read out single bits with a microscope...don't know if this is still done in rare cases. You may imagine how high the cost is and that this is long-term sisyphos work.... |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 11, 2016 12:27:39 GMT -6
Svart are you sure you didn't send the code anywhere ? How is the code populated into each svartbox ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 12:28:21 GMT -6
I think you are for sure qualified to do board swap by yourself as they do in the forensics, svart.
All the best and good luck and quite a bit of luck is needed...
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