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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 12:28:25 GMT -6
Dude - I'm sorry...The Svartbox can't die! You can't leave this to the RM's of the world! (I'm kidding, Tony) "The night is darkest just before the dawn. And I promise you, the dawn is coming." |
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 12:29:07 GMT -6
Svart are you sure you didn't send the code anywhere ? How is the code populated into each svartbox ? I manually loaded each box with a USB based programmer.. |
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 12:31:04 GMT -6
I think you are for sure qualified to do board swap by yourself as they do in the forensics, svart. All the best and good luck and quite a bit of luck is needed... Thanks! The hardest and scariest part is getting the heads spaced off the platters so that they can be moved so the platters can be removed. If the heads touch or are even the slightest bit off, the game is over. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 12:40:33 GMT -6
Uhm...yes. Unfortunately. Take your time. Wait until hands are really calm and you are cooled down emotionally...
It is a hit and miss game mostly. Stoic thinking helps. No joke.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 12:49:29 GMT -6
And because it has been mentioned, normally firmware can be read out, except fuse bits have been set to protect intellectual property, or other copy protection mechanism.
Also, this does not bring back source code...what can be done may be disassembling to assembler code, if it was C/C++ compiler originally, it becomes annoying...
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 12:51:53 GMT -6
And because it has been mentioned, normally firmware can be read out, except fuse bits have been set to protect intellectual property, or other copy protection mechanism. Also, this does not bring back source code...what can be done may be disassembling to assembler code, if it was C/C++ compiler originally, it becomes annoying... Yes, I'm hoping that this would be plan B if I can't get the source code back.. At least I could continue making units with just the read out HEX or BIN files to program into new units. I didn't purposely set protection fuses, so hopefully they are still unprotected. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 13:05:44 GMT -6
That would be a good plan B.
Fuse settings or other copy protection should never been automatically set. In Atmel studio (I assume you used that...) it is not set automatically and must be explicitly done with a script to integrate it automatically, to all of my knowledge, and it would be very odd if ANY microcontroller manufacturer handles this as default without explicitly setting. So chances are very high i.e. ehm 100% that this works anyhow, so things are safe as long as you don't want to change the design. If you do, in worst case, you would have to write the firmware from scratch. But even then - now that you have done this once, it would be way faster next time because of what you learned writing the first firmware.
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Post by drsax on Feb 11, 2016 13:12:20 GMT -6
So sorry to hear this happened to you Svart. Your converters are wonderful man. Hoping and praying you are able to recover the data from your hard drive. Hang in there. Been in this position before myself - not fun at all
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 11, 2016 13:22:25 GMT -6
Dude - I'm sorry...The Svartbox can't die! You can't leave this to the RM's of the world! (I'm kidding, Tony) no your not, and i agree.... |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 11, 2016 13:26:35 GMT -6
sorry to hear about this svart, good luck man, you're great at this shit, i believe you can get it done!
BTW; warning heeded, I'm off to get a backup cloud account set up...
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 11, 2016 13:32:38 GMT -6
Lets sadly remember, IM 101, Digital data doesn't exist unless its back up in independent sources  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 11, 2016 13:41:35 GMT -6
can anyone make a good online backup recommendation for a mac? looking for easy as my brain is tapped out, i'm friggin exhausted haha..
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 11, 2016 13:43:49 GMT -6
can anyone make a good online backup recommendation for a mac? looking for easy as my brain is tapped out, i'm friggin exhausted haha.. No idea about prices, but I use Druva. |
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Post by svart on Feb 11, 2016 13:48:55 GMT -6
The IT guys here at work were supposed to have a backup plan in place a year ago.. Never happened.. It was essentially on us to do our own backups..
Some of the guys never did any backups at all.. I at least copied files to a server and to a USB HDD..
I didn't lose any critical work files since I shared them all on a server with our CAD guy, but my personal files are all kaput unless I can salvage this drive.
Really, the only ones I'm upset about are the converter files.
I have the board gerbers in emails and paper versions of the BOM, so i can still build units, but the final firmware files are really the only thing I'm missing.
I do have a very OLD version of the ADC firmware on a laptop, but it doesn't have all the final features that I added nor any of the fixes I did..
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 11, 2016 13:54:24 GMT -6
can anyone make a good online backup recommendation for a mac? looking for easy as my brain is tapped out, i'm friggin exhausted haha.. No idea about prices, but I use Druva. Jeeeeeezus, i just watched the video and my brains rattling in my head! I said "EASY" lol, just plain old backup is fine.... |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 11, 2016 14:00:48 GMT -6
...it's super easy. Choose the folders that you want backed up and they appear in the cloud. If you want to recover stuff, go into the cloud, choose what you want, then recover. Bang.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 11, 2016 14:55:54 GMT -6
can anyone make a good online backup recommendation for a mac? looking for easy as my brain is tapped out, i'm friggin exhausted haha.. don't you have an icloud account: simple and cheap and of course drop box. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 21:53:54 GMT -6
For convenience:
Dropbox here. Because: Widely available, i can easily share data with all mobile devices in case my computer breaks down or my internet connection goes away and i have to use other peoples WLAN. Drawback is the limited free space for me, but it is enough to back up email data, most critical personal data and KeePass database (Oh yes, last time i lost a critical hard drive it was a hell of going thru the recovering of passwords...)
Large amounts of personal data, like personal picture database and essential software installation files and of course music projects and my own software sourcecode is backed up on 3 (relatively new) hard drives via USB, that are only connected for backup and restore. This is so cheap nowadays, and fast, too. Chances of critical loss are near zero. Even if the house burns down - one of my harddrives is always with me in my small city bagpack...
But, to be clear - for me, it was a lesson learned the hard way. I lost a lot of very personal data before i took this serious: pictures, memories, that are lost forever ... and this was a very sad loss...
Why i don't rely on cloud backup alone?
"No, there is no cloud. It sounds so nice, safe and natural, but it is just the computer of someone else..."
There is always a risk of data loss. Always.
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Post by mokobigbro on Feb 11, 2016 23:11:59 GMT -6
Svart,
So sorry for what happened.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 12, 2016 7:29:39 GMT -6
I only recommended icloud as he is on a mac and it is convenient and cheap but personally I think backing up twice to separate locations is wise.
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Post by swartzfeger on Feb 17, 2016 5:04:38 GMT -6
Former lurker and refugee from the 'other' site.
Sold my silverface Apollo sometime back, along with most of my gear. The last year was spent saving for new gear to begin writing again -- have my dream bass (rick 4003), a nice epiphone, AxeFX II and a few other goodies. Have been demoing like mad, but it's time for an interface again.
Been tearing my hair out -- Ensemble TB, MOTU 1248, Apollo Black. I really, really want to go back to UA as I love the plugs and the workflow, but have been leaning Ensemble or MOTU due the conversion.
But now this Svart box has renewed my hope in finding the perfect solution -- UA plugs for tracking (Apollo) and stellar conversion (Svart).
Good luck on the firmware. Watching this thread with great interest! (and yes, just plowed through all 45 pages in one sitting... I'm HOOKED!)
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Post by formatcyes on Feb 17, 2016 14:11:17 GMT -6
Hi swartzfeger welcome to the party. You cannot go wrong with a svart box |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2016 15:37:47 GMT -6
ah doesn't he still need an interface ?
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Post by formatcyes on Feb 17, 2016 16:15:08 GMT -6
Interface, INTERFACE now your getting all testnical Hes posting about using an apollo and a svart I havent used an apollo but think it would be a great combo. No? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2016 16:30:36 GMT -6
No he sold his interface and seemed to think he only need the svartbox but maybe I misunderstood ? I alway have trouble with testical details so I let my girlfriend handle that stuff |
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