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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 29, 2016 8:17:31 GMT -6
This Metroplex really sounds balls. Nice stuff.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 29, 2016 14:33:15 GMT -6
I can't see a need to ever use that much gain, but knowing it can do it makes me want a metroplex ever more!! Just trying to help! Actually, I don't think the gain was even maxed out. |
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Post by popmann on Oct 29, 2016 14:58:09 GMT -6
Here's actually some of George's own classic rock noodling....I imagine that EB has a big boost in it like the Luke3 does--doesn't that hit the front 20db hotter or something absurd? That clip does have a little....um....mid scoop sound.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 29, 2016 15:13:37 GMT -6
Here's actually some of George's own classic rock noodling....I imagine that EB has a big boost in it like the Luke3 does--doesn't that hit the front 20db hotter or something absurd? That clip does have a little....um....mid scoop sound. The mid control is very wide from wide open full on mids to major scooped. It has a lot of variation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 23:57:14 GMT -6
Nobody ever mentions these but they are probably the best rock / metal guitar amps I've ever heard.. Soo at number 1 it's!..!
1) Rhodes Colossus.
Then followed by:
2) Peavey 5150
3) Engl Savage
Special mention:
Diezel VH4
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Post by Ward on Jan 13, 2017 9:01:44 GMT -6
Well, hey, you mentioned them! I wouldn't, as I don't like any of them... but I'm very glad you do and that we all have different tastes. That means there's a greater probability that more brands will survive!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 0:46:16 GMT -6
Well, hey, you mentioned them! I wouldn't, as I don't like any of them... but I'm very glad you do and that we all have different tastes. That means there's a greater probability that more brands will survive! Well you must dislike a massive amount of rock and metal tones then as the Peavey 5150 was used rampantly in those genre's over the years. I've never actually met anyone else that's owned a Rhodes Colossus, surprised you couldn't get something decent sounding out of one. It's very versatile.. Engl is an aquired taste must admit. Of course like everything in music, it's all subjective. There's no wrong or right..! |
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Post by Ward on Jan 14, 2017 20:41:28 GMT -6
@shadowamd, well you might be right about a lot of use of the Peavey 5150. I never really bonded with that amp. I found it to be too overblown, over done, over baked, over cooked, too polished yet rough on the seemingly smooth edges. But that's just MY IMPRESSION! I had much better success with Marshalls like 2203s, 2204s, JVMs etc But like I said, we can all use different things and get results! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 21:55:40 GMT -6
@shadowamd , well you might be right about a lot of use of the Peavey 5150. I never really bonded with that amp. I found it to be too overblown, over done, over baked, over cooked, too polished yet rough on the seemingly smooth edges. But that's just MY IMPRESSION! I had much better success with Marshalls like 2203s, 2204s, JVMs etc But like I said, we can all use different things and get results! Just one of those amps where you gotta know what to do with it and it can take a while (lower end MB compression / specific settings on the amp / EQ etc.), Andy Sneap AFAIK was big on it. I've used them enough to know how to get ridiculously smooth heavy chugs and with the right guitar tons of decent sustain.. A lot of people love Messa's for rock / metal and I do like the sound of them in the right hands, I personally can't get some models of Messa's to sing for me.. I do like the JVM's must admit, used much in the way of Laney? If you like that older type of distortion they do record very well.. Nice amps!.. |
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Post by gouge on Jan 14, 2017 23:27:08 GMT -6
Orange ad30
musicman hd120
Vox ac30
Ampeg b15
And... Peavey 5150
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Post by nobtwiddler on Jan 21, 2017 20:35:28 GMT -6
Can't just have one! Need a couple, two, tree.... Attachments:
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Post by EmRR on Jan 23, 2017 0:07:30 GMT -6
ahh, but the question is if you had to, which amp would be The One? Remember the Seymour Duncan 'Convertible'? Two channels, switchable preamp modules. My favorites included the 'Melting Marshall' and the 'Vox 86' Oh yeah. And the can of De-Oxit you have to keep on hand to clean the plug-in contacts constantly. Most intermittent amp I've ever encountered. |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 23, 2017 0:12:14 GMT -6
1 amp, that's a tough one.
Around here I have a '64 Super Reverb, '68 Bassman that's been converted to the earlier Marshall type circuit and loaded with EL34's, '70's Champ, Ampeg V4B converted to EL34's, and a half dozen-ish various low watt Alamo, Gibson, Harmony, Silvertone, etc.
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Post by Ward on Jan 23, 2017 10:07:58 GMT -6
Remember the Seymour Duncan 'Convertible'? Two channels, switchable preamp modules. My favorites included the 'Melting Marshall' and the 'Vox 86' Oh yeah. And the can of De-Oxit you have to keep on hand to clean the plug-in contacts constantly. Most intermittent amp I've ever encountered. Mine operates flawlessly.... now. Had a great chat with Mr. Duncan himself, about the Convertible, at NAMM. The demand for them is through the roof in the UK. I've encouraged him to reissue them. 30 years later, there's been a lot of developments done that can improve on his groundbreaking work! He was 30 years ahead of his time, after all. |
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Post by Ward on Jan 23, 2017 10:10:01 GMT -6
1,SNIP '68 Bassman that's been converted to the earlier Marshall type circuit and loaded with EL34's, Try converting that to 6Ca7s and hear what happens! |
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Post by Guitar on Feb 2, 2017 17:38:12 GMT -6
Just wanted to say I am buying my first Marshall, should be here in 2 days or so. DSL100H
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Post by Ward on Feb 2, 2017 18:23:18 GMT -6
Just wanted to say I am buying my first Marshall, should be here in 2 days or so. DSL100H Don't use anything but a Marshall 1`960 cabinet with it, loaded with Celestion greenbacks that are well worn in. |
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Post by Guitar on Feb 2, 2017 18:27:53 GMT -6
Just wanted to say I am buying my first Marshall, should be here in 2 days or so. DSL100H Don't use anything but a Marshall 1`960 cabinet with it, loaded with Celestion greenbacks that are well worn in. I've got a G12T-75 4x12 cabinet here, but I do have a 2x12 with some 30 watt speakers. .. I'll try them both. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 2, 2017 19:01:04 GMT -6
Here's actually some of George's own classic rock noodling....I imagine that EB has a big boost in it like the Luke3 does--doesn't that hit the front 20db hotter or something absurd? That clip does have a little....um....mid scoop sound. The mid control is very wide from wide open full on mids to major scooped. It has a lot of variation. I spent considerable time with one recently and can honestly say that I've never heard a Marshall with as much top end as one of these. Had the presence rolled off and treble on 3 with the mid and bass up there, and it was still cutting my head off. In all settings and switch configurations. It sounded very different to the demos I have heard. |
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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2017 22:38:15 GMT -6
I'd like to know if you could only have ONE amp, what would it be? My #1 for a while has been a 1973 50 watt Marshall modified for gain and channel switching by Martin Golub at LA Sound Design. I send it straight into a Two Notes Studio load box and then PT. No fuss, no muss. Sounds glorious. For clean I use a new-ish Deluxe Reverb head, also into the Two Notes. It's a beautiful signal path, and 100% consistent from session to session. The Two Notes is amazing and IMO leagues above other load boxes I've tried - the mic and cabinet IRs are spot-on. It's hard to choose one cabinet/mic setup over another, they all sound so authentic. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 6, 2017 8:52:54 GMT -6
Well, I still stand by my 3 amps to rule them all... and congrats to matt for also getting a mid 70s Marshall 50 watt. Beast of an amp!! All the being said, I'm on my way to Texas and picking up my SECOND 1986 Seymour Duncan Convertible 100watt. Dayumm, I love these amps! I have the head already, this one's a 1x12 combo. It is a killer amp and can do almost anything. I'm hoping to swap it for an Upton or Shannon 251 eventually. hint hint Johnkenn @sinsay |
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Post by matt on Mar 6, 2017 11:02:34 GMT -6
Well, I still stand by my 3 amps to rule them all... and congrats to matt for also getting a mid 70s Marshall 50 watt. Beast of an amp!! All the being said, I'm on my way to Texas and picking up my SECOND 1986 Seymour Duncan Convertible 100watt. Dayumm, I love these amps! I have the head already, this one's a 1x12 combo. It is a killer amp and can do almost anything. I'm hoping to swap it for an Upton or Shannon 251 eventually. hint hint Johnkenn @sinsay Thanks! I am a bit of an amp fetishist and own a number of Marshalls and clones, many of them modded by Dave Friedman. I also can call on a Friedman BE-100, Soldano SLO100, Cameron CCV, or Randall RM if the need for gain gets overwhelming. The SLO and CCV don't get used much these days though. I ran out of Aquanet a long time ago. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 7, 2017 6:41:19 GMT -6
Thanks! I am a bit of an amp fetishist and own a number of Marshalls and clones, many of them modded by Dave Friedman. I also can call on a Friedman BE-100, Soldano SLO100, Cameron CCV, or Randall RM if the need for gain gets overwhelming. The SLO and CCV don't get used much these days though. An embarrassment of riches then? I ran out of Aquanet a long time ago. Oh, I gotcha covered! There are some great new brands on the market these days. The art of teasing is not dead!! It's just more ozone-layer-friendly. |
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Post by popmann on Mar 26, 2017 22:50:33 GMT -6
The mid control is very wide from wide open full on mids to major scooped. It has a lot of variation. I spent considerable time with one recently and can honestly say that I've never heard a Marshall with as much top end as one of these. Had the presence rolled off and treble on 3 with the mid and bass up there, and it was still cutting my head off. In all settings and switch configurations. It sounded very different to the demos I have heard. So where did you get to play it here? Any idea what the cab was you played through? I see this is 45 days out.....I didn't see this until tonight. Hoping it's still in town.... |
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Post by Ward on Mar 27, 2017 6:57:34 GMT -6
popmann. LA Vintage Guitars 2407 Magnolia Blvd., Burbank, CA.
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