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Post by drew571 on Jan 25, 2017 7:47:59 GMT -6
Thinking about jumping into slappin some bass. I'm kinda leaning towards a P-Bass, just like how they fit in a mix. But I'm terribly inexperienced with bass, just started thinking and listening to some options. Any suggestions from those that have experience?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 25, 2017 8:22:42 GMT -6
Thinking about jumping into slappin some bass. I'm kinda leaning towards a P-Bass, just like how they fit in a mix. But I'm terribly inexperienced with bass, just started thinking and listening to some options. Any suggestions from those that have experience? What genre?
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Post by drew571 on Jan 25, 2017 8:24:56 GMT -6
Thinking about jumping into slappin some bass. I'm kinda leaning towards a P-Bass, just like how they fit in a mix. But I'm terribly inexperienced with bass, just started thinking and listening to some options. Any suggestions from those that have experience? What genre? rock, sound tracks.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 25, 2017 8:29:06 GMT -6
For more rock oriented stuff, I prefer a J, blues/country/rounder sounds I like the P.
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Post by svart on Jan 25, 2017 8:58:27 GMT -6
I almost always choose a P-bass first, but I converted my J-bass into a P/J bass by routing places for P pickups in the body..
Since then I've learned that Fender does indeed make a P/J bass, allowing you to have the sound of both in one instrument.
Also, all things considered, I've found that some of the high or mid level Squire basses play and feel just as good as any Fender branded bass. I'd pick up a Squire P/J and upgrade the pickups and bridge and have a really good fret job and setup done on it. You'll end up with a much nicer playing bass than a stock Fender while saving some money.
I did that with my Squire bass and I've had a lot of bassists use it over their Fender Americans.
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Post by drew571 on Jan 25, 2017 10:17:53 GMT -6
thanks for the tips. is there any down side of having a 5 string?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 25, 2017 10:23:14 GMT -6
thanks for the tips. is there any down side of having a 5 string? Feel. Personally, over the years, I've come to appreciate 4 string more and more. I have a 5 string jazz, and love it, but like my 4 better at this point. Looking at grabbing a 4 P now for the stable.
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Post by Bender on Jan 25, 2017 12:34:21 GMT -6
Jan 25, 2017 10:17:53 GMT -6 drew571 said: thanks for the tips. is there any down side of having a 5 string? Not really, I find them easier to shred because of the closer string placement & a little more versatile for fingerpicking or pick playing styles. Plus sometimes you just gotta hit that low B
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Post by Ward on Jan 25, 2017 22:13:35 GMT -6
Which one?
Easy. Music Man Stingray.
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Post by terryrocks on Jan 26, 2017 1:03:33 GMT -6
I play and have played a 90s era mij pbass for the last 20years. Last night i played a 74 pbass. Totally different animal in so many ways.
I also own a mia jbass with antiquity2s.
I, by far, prefer a pbass for just about everything. It can growl, it can be soft and round, it has the deepness. Compared to the few jass basses i've owned/played, the pbass always does it for me.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 26, 2017 5:32:40 GMT -6
Don't listen to Ward. He's obviously been hitting the bottle tonight.
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Post by svart on Jan 26, 2017 7:48:17 GMT -6
Don't listen to Ward . He's obviously been hitting the bottle tonight. Clearly. I've had nothing but trouble with recording and mixing MusicMan basses. Every one of them that come into the studio, I steer them to the P/J and the bassists end up offering me money or trade for it..
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Post by Ward on Jan 26, 2017 9:37:44 GMT -6
jcoutu1 and svart. you guys are a pair of cards, aren't ya? Jokers. LOL!! I have had nothing but the greatest success with Stingrays. So different strokes for different folks! As for the bottle... like every night, Jesse, the bottle lets me down.
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Post by bowie on Jan 26, 2017 20:46:24 GMT -6
Depends on what you're doing but I think the Jazz is probably the most versatile. P offers a lot of in-the-pocket warmth and groove. I tend to lean toward Jazz-style basses for the "growl" and definition in the lows, which is helped out by the fact that they usually have some decent midrange content. Stingray does a similar thing but with more balls, IMO. Warwicks are an extreme form of that piano-like tight, clear bass guitar tone. My Warwick Thumb can sound obnoxiously aggressive when solo'd but in the context of a mix it's easy to work with and fairly bloat-free, even when turned up.
Being someone who uses a lot of DI'd bass, a big thing for me is upgrading the pickups. Even a lot of the expensive basses out there use mid-quality pickups (not all, but many). Better pups can give better focus and make recording much easier. Figuring out the right ones for the bass and the application can be tricky but worth the effort to nail the bass tone you're after.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 26, 2017 22:17:50 GMT -6
Every time I heard a record where I noticed the bass, and thought, THAT'S the sound I want, it was a Jazz bass, used in a rock, folk rock, or singer/songwriter context.
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Post by jimwilliams on Jan 27, 2017 10:47:49 GMT -6
P-bass with a jazz pickup. That's what I've used since 1979. It does everything well. Skip Mustang basses, 30" scale and thin bodies. Pick the bass that sounds more solid unplugged. The wiring can be fixed later.
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Post by jazznoise on Jan 27, 2017 12:04:20 GMT -6
Which one? Easy. Music Man Stingray. Hi there, Tina Weymouth. My votes a P cause I like the grinding thing. For more vanilla bass sounds, the Jazz will do well. I think getting a good amp tone is the real ticket anyway. I'm relying less and less on DI for the tonal quality and more just for the sub/low bass information.
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Post by Ward on Jan 27, 2017 16:40:20 GMT -6
Which one? Easy. Music Man Stingray. Hi there, Tina Weymouth.. I thought Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads) used a Fender Music Master or Fender Bronco short scale bass?
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Post by jazznoise on Jan 28, 2017 5:48:20 GMT -6
Hi there, Tina Weymouth.. I thought Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads) used a Fender Music Master or Fender Bronco short scale bass? I think she uses it on Stop Making Sense for Heaven, or some of the early stuff, and that's why I associate it with her. Plus I've never gotten to call anyone Tina Weymouth before.
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Post by mikec on Jan 28, 2017 7:06:36 GMT -6
I picked up one of the new fender Elite P basses last year so I could record some of my own bass parts and I am very happy with it. It has P Bass pickups in the neck and a J Bass pickup in the bridge. You can change the pickups from passive to active with just the flip of a switch. It had just been taken out of the box when I got it with a 15% off coupon at the local guitar center. I am always meticulous in setting up my guitars and was pleasantly surprised that this one was perfect right out of the box. For the money it is really hard to beat and very flexible.
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Post by drew571 on Jan 28, 2017 8:52:32 GMT -6
I picked up one of the new fender Elite P basses last year so I could record some of my own bass parts and I am very happy with it. It has P Bass pickups in the neck and a J Bass pickup in the bridge. You can change the pickups from passive to active with just the flip of a switch. It had just been taken out of the box when I got it with a 15% off coupon at the local guitar center. I am always meticulous in setting up my guitars and was pleasantly surprised that this one was perfect right out of the box. For the money it is really hard to beat and very flexible. yeah, i was looking at the new professional series but the elite might be the way to go if i get those extra pickups
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Post by Guitar on Feb 2, 2017 18:04:54 GMT -6
If you are capable with wiring and fretwork, I would pick up a couple cheap P and J bass, maybe from SX or some other option, and spruce them up a bit, for a low cost. It's a good DIY option, anyway. I have 3 basses here and none of them is my favorite, I pick them all up at different times, and appreciate each on its own merits.
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Post by mulmany on Feb 2, 2017 21:15:42 GMT -6
A nice old Peavey Foundation with the super ferrite pups are real nice. My fretless is fun to play, not sure exactly how a fretted would compare. Talk about a long scale bass!
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Post by winetree on Feb 2, 2017 21:47:34 GMT -6
I've always felt the Jazz Bass neck is to narrow an the nut. In the early 70's I ordered a new, Natural, blond neck P-bass. The natural was an ash body weighing 14 pounds. Playing 6 night a week I had a custom, wide padded shoulder strap made. Don't help the sore shoulder. Sold the bass. I walked into a music store and the salesman was playing a Bass he had taken in on trade. It was a lot lighter in weight. He sold it to me for a $100.00. It was a 1968 P-Bass that I still play today. I play a Squire J-Bass while I watch T.V.
Quote from above; "Talk about a long scale bass!" My Alembic is just over 2 - 1/2 octaves.
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Post by mulmany on Feb 2, 2017 22:07:03 GMT -6
I've always felt the Jazz Bass neck is to narrow an the nut. In the early 70's I ordered a new, Natural, blond neck P-bass. The natural was an ash body weighing 14 pounds. Playing 6 night a week I had a custom, wide padded shoulder strap made. Don't help the sore shoulder. Sold the bass. I walked into a music store and the salesman was playing a Bass he had taken in on trade. It was a lot lighter in weight. He sold it to me for a $100.00. It was a 1968 P-Bass that I still play today. I play a Squire J-Bass while I watch T.V. Quote from above; "Talk about a long scale bass!" My Alembic is just over 2 - 1/2 octaves. The Peavey's are long, not necessarily scale, there is a lot of neck. I find that it helps a lot on the fretless... I used my Peavey to punch in on an upright bass track. It matched better then I expected, since the artist wanted to tone down the playing, and the session player was not available.
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