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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 12, 2014 22:47:42 GMT -6
Couldn't take it anymore...Had to buy one. I've had it for about five hours, but I've been too lazy to take it upstairs and hook it up. I had to order a Spdif coax to optical adapter...so I can't slave it to the Symphony yet...so that could be part of my laziness.
And there's ALWAYS something. I had totally forgotten that I use my Tbolt port as a mini Display port for my second monitor...so, I had to order a damn Thunderbolt Hub to be able to use two monitors and the Twin at the same time. $189 later...
I think I'm just gonna pay the $799 for 6 plugs - the one time registration thing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 0:26:31 GMT -6
"couldn't take it anymore" followed by "too lazy to take it upstairs" lol
you've got G.A.S. in the worst form, sir! Quick, tell your spouse/significant other to hide your wallet! :-P
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Post by RicFoxx on Mar 13, 2014 7:34:00 GMT -6
Ive bought and returned the Duo (wanted more power) the 16 (didn't have ADAT) and ended up with the quad and each time I registered a unit I took advantage of the custom bundle and now I have all the plugs I wanted. Now this was not premeditated and I even called UAD to inform them of this.
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Post by RicFoxx on Mar 13, 2014 7:34:56 GMT -6
Anybody here about TC Electronics being a new development partner with UAD???
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Post by matt on Mar 13, 2014 8:24:39 GMT -6
Anybody here about TC Electronics being a new development partner with UAD??? Yes, announced yesterday at Musikmesse: TC and UAD |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 13, 2014 9:33:03 GMT -6
Yeah - I was in the studio all day yesterday...tired...I did, however hook it up at about midnight. The Symphony DA is definitely the better of the two. Another reason I was hesitant to listen is that I don't have the SPDIF coax to optical adapter to clock it with the Symphony - also didn't have a Tbolt hub, so I'd have to unplug one of my monitors...Didn't really want to pass judgement until I had time to use it like I would be using it...Couldn't wait though.
My plan is to clock via spdif from the Symphony. That way, I can track using the AD from the Symphony with the advantage of the UAD plugs and software. I can monitor via the Apollo's DA while tracking and then switch over to the Symphony DA when mixing. I believe the newest BLA Twin mod will add a digital out - so if I got that, the Twin would basically just be a dongle for Tbolt connectivity and recording with the plugs.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 13, 2014 17:45:21 GMT -6
sorry if this is obvious from the symphony your console inputs will be the spdif channels and you put your plugs on them but that won't give you the unison capability . Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 13, 2014 17:59:06 GMT -6
Right...but I could still track with say - an LA2A and monitor with the 250 or whatever, right? I guess there might be times I would want to try the 610 or something (maybe the Neve is coming - or Helios!) and I would just use the Apollo AD to do that.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 13, 2014 18:00:55 GMT -6
BTW - I registered my Apollo Twin and got a free Helios plug...nice. Also, I chose the 6 plugs for $799...still haven't chosen, though. I might go for the pricier ones and just buy the LA2A and 1176 collections for $198
So - 8 plugs for $1000...$125 apiece...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 0:21:48 GMT -6
nice!
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 14, 2014 1:46:21 GMT -6
Right...but I could still track with say - an LA2A and monitor with the 250 or whatever, right? I guess there might be times I would want to try the 610 or something (maybe the Neve is coming - or Helios!) and I would just use the Apollo AD to do that. right! all other ua plugs will be available for tracking in console for instantiation up to the dsp limit, if you get a satellite those additional sharc chips are only available for mixing u r wise to jump on the 6/799 deal and to use that for the expensive plugs you do not have mkii upgrade discounts for in buying the plug deal, ua just gave you your twin for free : sort of !  ( 6x300=1800 -799 = 1,000 +300 = $1,300 savings off list) now be like some people on ua forum who bitch and moan about how ua takes advantage of them if you buy a new satalite/pci-e card, you get another custom deal, just keep in mind if bla puts out the 2nd spdif port as you might want to go external tbolt chassis for pci-e card for xtra sharc dsp |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 14, 2014 7:30:06 GMT -6
Don't wait too long for the LA2 upgrade, it's a whole nother thang compared to the legacy.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2014 9:27:56 GMT -6
OMG freaking Lord...just tried the Fairchild. HOLY SHIT. That thing is bad ass. I absolutely found a new Drum Bus compressor...Maybe a new EVERYTHING compressor.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 14, 2014 10:01:28 GMT -6
I don't understand why UAD hasn't been able make their Apollo lines talk to each other. I have a Duo, ( non-Thunderbolt). I'd like to buy a Twin, use it in conjunction with the Duo. In theory, I'd double my DSP power and have a portable Apollo to take places if I want. Simple right? I'd get the T-Bolt card if it made this happen. Apollos should all be stackable.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2014 10:02:12 GMT -6
And a monitor controller...That would be kind of the shit...
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 14, 2014 12:48:28 GMT -6
In my experience, just the LA2 and the Ampex alone are worth anything you paid for it.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2014 9:46:42 GMT -6
So, I have a bit of a question. This Apollo allows you to record and monitor the plugs live?
My situation is that I run 32 channels out from Pro Tools through my console, mix hybrid, then record the stereo mix back to pro tools. Right now, if I want compression or eq, or anything else for that matter, on my 2 buss, I need it to be analog. If I grabbed this Twin, I could capture the 2 buss console mix through the Twin and monitor/capture with a Massive Passive, Tape sim, and Fairchild running? Does this make sense?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2014 9:57:18 GMT -6
So, I have a bit of a question. This Apollo allows you to record and monitor the plugs live? My situation is that I run 32 channels out from Pro Tools through my console, mix hybrid, then record the stereo mix back to pro tools. Right now, if I want compression or eq, or anything else for that matter, on my 2 buss, I need it to be analog. If I grabbed this Twin, I could capture the 2 buss console mix through the Twin and monitor/capture with a Massive Passive, Tape sim, and Fairchild running? Does this make sense? Also, I have a friend that uses Sonar. He can lock his tracks or something which frees up his UAD DSP. Can we do something like that in Pro Tools? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 16, 2014 10:15:20 GMT -6
I think he Freezes the tracks...but no, not in Pro Tools...We've only been asking PT's for this for 20 years. You could buy a super cheap version of Cubase and do it, though.
As for the first question - yes, the Twin could absolutely do that - but the plugs are extra money. You could spend 800 on the apollo and then 400 for 3 more plugs...that's a 1200 investment for the two bus though. Def cheaper than buying those three in real life, though!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 10:42:39 GMT -6
you'd be going thru the Twin's converters, tho.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2014 10:43:01 GMT -6
I think he Freezes the tracks...but no, not in Pro Tools...We've only been asking PT's for this for 20 years. You could buy a super cheap version of Cubase and do it, though. As for the first question - yes, the Twin could absolutely do that - but the plugs are extra money. You could spend 800 on the apollo and then 400 for 3 more plugs...that's a 1200 investment for the two bus though. Def cheaper than buying those three in real life, though! Cheaper than a 10dc pair and xfilter that I'm looking at adding. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 16, 2014 10:44:05 GMT -6
Tru dat
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2014 11:11:33 GMT -6
you'd be going thru the Twin's converters, tho. So just plug my monitors into the twin and use that as my monitoring DA. That seems fine to me. I assume that it can't be worse than the Midas conversion that I use. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2014 11:13:26 GMT -6
I think he Freezes the tracks...but no, not in Pro Tools...We've only been asking PT's for this for 20 years. You could buy a super cheap version of Cubase and do it, though. As for the first question - yes, the Twin could absolutely do that - but the plugs are extra money. You could spend 800 on the apollo and then 400 for 3 more plugs...that's a 1200 investment for the two bus though. Def cheaper than buying those three in real life, though! No freeze could be a deal breaker though. The duo seems like it's not enough horsepower if you can't freeze. The added advantage would be using some plugs in the mix too, but it doesn't seem to be enough power to do that. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 16, 2014 13:28:18 GMT -6
So, are you just talking about using it mainly for the 2 buss? If so, it has pleeennnty of power to slap whatever on that. It would just be hard to run 4 Manley MP's and more...I use the Duo on sessions with 16-30 tracks and it's just about right. I mix in with other native plugs - just use the UAD stuff for important jobs. BTW - you can "freeze" a pro tools track...just bounce it down to another audio track...Ouila!
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( 6x300=1800 -799 = 1,000 +300 = $1,300 savings off list)
