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Post by slowhammond on Jan 1, 2021 18:38:06 GMT -6
Thanks, man! Checking em out right now.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2021 19:09:22 GMT -6
Thanks, man! Checking em out right now. I particularly like the Vibro Verb and Super Reverb. And the Brownface Super. Look up Yek’s amp guide for descriptions of each amp. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 3, 2021 15:29:00 GMT -6
Thanks, man! Checking em out right now. So what you think? |
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 3, 2021 21:06:28 GMT -6
Thanks, man! Checking em out right now. So what you think? Well, I’m so overwhelmed with the tone and functionality that I feel like I should wait a week to comment, so people don’t think I work for the company. I’ve found everything you and others have said to be absolutely true. More thoughts soon. |
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Post by donr on Jan 7, 2021 8:42:32 GMT -6
After owning the AxeFX III for almost a year, I think it's the recording studio's equivalent of Jay Leno's garage, or Don Garlits' museum.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 7, 2021 9:40:23 GMT -6
Well, I’m so overwhelmed with the tone and functionality that I feel like I should wait a week to comment, so people don’t think I work for the company. I’ve found everything you and others have said to be absolutely true. More thoughts soon. That's exactly what I fear my reaction would be...overwhelmed. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2021 10:20:45 GMT -6
Well, I’m so overwhelmed with the tone and functionality that I feel like I should wait a week to comment, so people don’t think I work for the company. I’ve found everything you and others have said to be absolutely true. More thoughts soon. That's exactly what I fear my reaction would be...overwhelmed. I basically use all the Fenders. After trying out AT5 - if they weren’t dependent on buffers - I could get by with that. But it’s the variety, ease of use, ability to change tones in seconds, FX, etc. that just makes the Axe soooo convenient. Like I said, I think those AT5 Fenders are pretty spot on, but I can’t put 6 instances of AT5 in a session that already has 3 other VIs...and then lowering the buffer to even 128. |
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Post by askomiko on Jan 8, 2021 4:43:49 GMT -6
I recommend everyone to shoot some IRs of your own rig. That adds an additional layer of "that's me!". Of course, only if you actually like your physical cabs.  Just got a new album done with all guitars and basses thru Axe3. Should be released in april. |
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 8, 2021 13:14:09 GMT -6
After owning the AxeFX III for almost a year, I think it's the recording studio's equivalent of Jay Leno's garage, or Don Garlits' museum. Brilliant description. Spot on. It’s my intellectual and creative airplane hangar. Except I never have to put the tools up. Fwiw, “overwhelmed” was the wrong word as it suggests it’s too much to be quickly useful and fun. Not so - I was overwhelmed with joy! |
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 9, 2021 13:02:03 GMT -6
Well, I’m so overwhelmed with the tone and functionality that I feel like I should wait a week to comment, so people don’t think I work for the company. I’ve found everything you and others have said to be absolutely true. More thoughts soon. That's exactly what I fear my reaction would be...overwhelmed. , definitely a fair point. I’m doing great starting with the fenders, as @johnkenn suggested. Not much different than learning Cubase or a Blue Sky (although easier than both). I’d call it somewhere between plug-n-play and a new security system. Slightly north of a smart oven. IMHO, it doesn’t rise to the threshold of too overwhelming, so I’d say don’t let that be your primary criteria. 😎 The manual and self-help resources online kick ass. |
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 9, 2021 13:10:27 GMT -6
After owning the AxeFX III for almost a year, I think it's the recording studio's equivalent of Jay Leno's garage, or Don Garlits' museum. donr, just curious, have you built any tones yet? I’ll probably stick with tweaking existing presets for a while - they’re so much better than I expected, off the shelf. |
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Post by donr on Jan 9, 2021 13:34:14 GMT -6
After owning the AxeFX III for almost a year, I think it's the recording studio's equivalent of Jay Leno's garage, or Don Garlits' museum. donr, just curious, have you built any tones yet? I’ll probably stick with tweaking existing presets for a while - they’re so much better than I expected, off the shelf. No, I haven't put any of my own or 3rd party cab IR's in yet. I have used different Fractal cabs with various heads. There's so much to choose from. I tend to move the mics back a little from the cab vs the factory patch. Putting mics right up on the cone was born out of live leakage and iso concerns, not sonics IMO. I also favor the Beyer 160 IR's. I haven't got time to really listen to all the options. I don't need to, the tones are better than I could get at my home studio anyway. One thing that interests me is creating the sound of clapped out guitar amps. I bet it's possible. Some unique sounds can happen playing through an amp that's not quite right. The AxeFX editor is nifty. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 9, 2021 16:14:27 GMT -6
donr, just curious, have you built any tones yet? I’ll probably stick with tweaking existing presets for a while - they’re so much better than I expected, off the shelf. No, I haven't put any of my own or 3rd party cab IR's in yet. I have used different Fractal cabs with various heads. There's so much to choose from. I tend to move the mics back a little from the cab vs the factory patch. Putting mics right up on the cone was born out of live leakage and iso concerns, not sonics IMO. I also favor the Beyer 160 IR's. I haven't got time to really listen to all the options. I don't need to, the tones are better than I could get at my home studio anyway. One thing that interests me is creating the sound of clapped out guitar amps. I bet it's possible. Some unique sounds can happen playing through an amp that's not quite right. The AxeFX editor is nifty. Did you mean “crapped” out? If so, have you tried using the input boost on some of the fenders? You can really get that crapped out Tweed Deluxe Neil Young Crazyhorse thing. Also, the transformer drive in the power supply section can crunch things up. |
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Post by donr on Jan 9, 2021 16:22:56 GMT -6
In my vernacular, clapped and crapped share similarities of meaning. Clapped means worn and out of spec, where crapped would be broken.
Thanks for the tip, John. Another plus of the AxeFX is they keep making it better. What's different in the AxeFX III mk II?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 9, 2021 16:33:43 GMT -6
In my vernacular, clapped and crapped share similarities of meaning. Clapped means worn and out of spec, where crapped would be broken. Thanks for the tip, John. Another plus of the AxeFX is they keep making it better. What's different in the AxeFX III mk II? Ah, gotcha. That actually makes more sense. Just a better touchscreen and more preset storage. Neither of which I need. There are a bunch of those options like transformer sag, etc that I think can make it sound more like that. Many of which I can’t really tell what they do. |
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Post by donr on Jan 9, 2021 16:41:15 GMT -6
The only thing I use the front panel of the AxeFX for is the tuner. Everything else is done with the computer editor. I've got my eye on the FM3 floor board for possible live use. I just hate not being able to easily grab a knob live and change stuff. I've got a pretty good hybrid setup now with the Strymon Iridium as the amp, but all my stomp boxes and FX separate.
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Post by dmo on Jan 9, 2021 16:59:32 GMT -6
DonR, The primary difference in the newest (Mk2) version is a new screen (so you can now change logo color and brightness) and more room for presets. Cliff has hinted that there is something in the works specific for the mk2 but so far no solid info - extensive thread over at the axe forum and lots of speculating last time I checked. I'm very content with the Mk1 so doubt I'll update until the axe4 (just teasing) comes out |
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 10, 2021 18:02:38 GMT -6
Out of a ton of useful characteristics of the AFX, the most appealing to me is the quality of gating, compression and - not sure how to put this - the “arc” of the tone from the moment you touch the string through the end of the decay. The “Mr. Gilmour” patch is a good example. If you listen from the first pick transient through the swell, the peak/hump/apogee, and then the long but really organic and rich decay, it’s like the 1st, 2nd and 3rd acts of a story. The decay on that patch is killer - it snuck up as a surprise. You can actually “play” the decay as a complementary instrument to the first pick attack. I know this sounds academic but it’s cool as balls in person.
The gain, the comp, the echo, the delay and most of all the gating is mixed like a perfect martini. All of that results in just straight up clean, top shelf and pro class audio. Like finished Edge or John Mayer tones. There’s no way I could conjure up something so professional myself with amps, pedals, gates. I mean I certainly could try to get close but it wouldn’t have anywhere near the sheen and it would take me forever. With the AFX, it’s an afterthought. For that alone - fast access to super pro quality sound - it’s worth the price. And I’m still at the bottom of the iceberg.
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 10, 2021 18:11:10 GMT -6
I have to add one more thing I think John and Don have already touched on - you can feel it in your hands and the guitar body. Obviously it doesn’t put out the sound pressure of a dimed stack, but somehow it puts out the density, compression and richness of a stack.
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Post by Ward on Jan 11, 2021 7:49:24 GMT -6
I have to add one more thing I think John and Don have already touched on - you can feel it in your hands and the guitar body. Obviously it doesn’t put out the sound pressure of a dimed stack, but somehow it puts out the density, compression and richness of a stack. That's curious... because what keeps pushing me away from Kemper et al is the complete lack of feel. That little tingle you get from plugging into a tube amp running internally at up to 600 volts, and the SPL enough to blow your ears apart, yeah, I still love that. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 11, 2021 13:01:12 GMT -6
I have to add one more thing I think John and Don have already touched on - you can feel it in your hands and the guitar body. Obviously it doesn’t put out the sound pressure of a dimed stack, but somehow it puts out the density, compression and richness of a stack. That's curious... because what keeps pushing me away from Kemper et al is the complete lack of feel. That little tingle you get from plugging into a tube amp running internally at up to 600 volts, and the SPL enough to blow your ears apart, yeah, I still love that. Well, this isn't a Kemper. |
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Post by Ward on Jan 11, 2021 15:26:54 GMT -6
That's curious... because what keeps pushing me away from Kemper et al is the complete lack of feel. That little tingle you get from plugging into a tube amp running internally at up to 600 volts, and the SPL enough to blow your ears apart, yeah, I still love that. Well, this isn't a Kemper. I feel you on that, and it sounds a whole lot better too! |
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Post by slowhammond on Jan 11, 2021 21:04:53 GMT -6
Yeah, that’s what boggles me. And the SRV thing when you gliss down the fretboard really fast like he does on Lenny or something, it makes that same “thwoosh” sound, like it’s a cranked Super. Yet the volume stays at the same level as Walkman headphones.
Digital magic. I don’t know how they do it ... but they done it.
(I’m not the only one that calls that a thwoosh sound, right?)
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 11, 2021 21:11:19 GMT -6
That super and Vibro Verb are just killer. You should really try that Austin Buddy Naked amps. He sets up a lot of things I wouldn’t necessarily think about.
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Post by donr on Jan 12, 2021 13:12:07 GMT -6
In fairness to the Kemper, it's only as good as the profiler's job getting the profile. The AxeFX does seem to get closer to the nitty gritty, and the tweak factor is out of sight. I wouldn't hesitate to use the Kemper to get a sound the Axe doesn't make. Thing is, I don't use that many sounds anyway. Four or five flavors of amps cover the bases in the main.
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