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Post by chessparov on Aug 16, 2023 19:01:01 GMT -6
And what of Heldentenor? š
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Post by Ward on Aug 16, 2023 19:30:19 GMT -6
And what of Heldentenor? š ART MP2 |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 16, 2023 21:28:10 GMT -6
You must be pulling my Leggiero.
Chris
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Post by bricejchandler on Aug 18, 2023 5:15:39 GMT -6
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Post by andersmv on Aug 26, 2023 10:36:28 GMT -6
Iām āofficiallyā releasing these next week, but will go ahead and post here for the weekend (I donāt even have tags or descriptions in there yet). If you donāt care about walking through the controls and how they sound, skip the first half of Part 1, the second half is me running line level signals through them.
Part 2 is the full band with less taking/walkthrough and more music. After we go through settings on each instrument, I go through mixing through the Coils. The full song montage at the end is going back and forth between all the 286 files mixed through the 286, and all the 70 files mixed through the 70.
Hopefully a lot of questions are answered after these two videos, I canāt imagine someone doing anything more thorough after this. The way everyone raves about these things so much, I figured I needed to give them a go. Best damn preamps Iāve tried, I have to send them back to Coil now but that will be remedied soon.
Oh ya, full session files are in the Part 2 video description, 96k24b.
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Post by andersmv on Aug 29, 2023 8:05:03 GMT -6
Well, I'm going to keep at least one of the preamps they sent here. Will probably be the 286, but I keep coming back to the 70 as it just sounds like a freaking tape machine (especially running things through it). Need to figure out how to just keep both...
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Post by bricejchandler on Aug 29, 2023 8:09:01 GMT -6
really great review!
Yeah I can't imagine having to choose between the 286 and the 70, I just love both so much.
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Post by andersmv on Aug 29, 2023 8:14:45 GMT -6
Both are in the cards at some point, just need to prioritize right now.
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Post by suicity on Aug 29, 2023 8:25:27 GMT -6
andersmv, do not be a sad panda. Videos watched, and they really are some of the best I've seen, helping to hear the difference between the preamps. CA-70 for me.
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Post by andersmv on Aug 30, 2023 9:11:44 GMT -6
andersmv , do not be a sad panda. Videos watched, and they really are some of the best I've seen, helping to hear the difference between the preamps. CA-70 for me. The Coils are amazing! I'm happy to report that they're both going to stay with me. I'll keep the 286 here at the studio, the 70 is going with a friend to use on a few projects we're in the middle of. I'm currently doing a few more test and playing around with both to make sure the 286 is the one staying here, hard choices. My friend is going to be doing a lot of string parts with a guy, and the 70 really blew me away on fiddle. Makes the decision a little easier. Now I need to save up and get a second 286 so I can throw it on the Program Insert on my API Console. That would be something... |
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Post by bricejchandler on Aug 30, 2023 9:56:14 GMT -6
andersmv , do not be a sad panda. Videos watched, and they really are some of the best I've seen, helping to hear the difference between the preamps. CA-70 for me. The Coils are amazing! I'm happy to report that they're both going to stay with me. I'll keep the 286 here at the studio, the 70 is going with a friend to use on a few projects we're in the middle of. I'm currently doing a few more test and playing around with both to make sure the 286 is the one staying here, hard choices. My friend is going to be doing a lot of string parts with a guy, and the 70 really blew me away on fiddle. Makes the decision a little easier. Now I need to save up and get a second 286 so I can throw it on the Program Insert on my API Console. That would be something... Be sure to try dynamic mics with the Coils. I've done entire projects just with dynamics because they sound so cool through those preamps. It was an ear opening experience for me. I was like, man dynamics can sound this good? |
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Post by andersmv on Aug 30, 2023 10:15:42 GMT -6
The Coils are amazing! I'm happy to report that they're both going to stay with me. I'll keep the 286 here at the studio, the 70 is going with a friend to use on a few projects we're in the middle of. I'm currently doing a few more test and playing around with both to make sure the 286 is the one staying here, hard choices. My friend is going to be doing a lot of string parts with a guy, and the 70 really blew me away on fiddle. Makes the decision a little easier. Now I need to save up and get a second 286 so I can throw it on the Program Insert on my API Console. That would be something... Be sure to try dynamic mics with the Coils. I've done entire projects just with dynamics because they sound so cool through those preamps. It was an ear opening experience for me. I was like, man dynamics can sound this good? I'm afraid that when I do that, I'm going to need more channels ASAP for drums...  |
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Post by andersmv on Sept 1, 2023 17:40:12 GMT -6
If anyone wants me to run some stuff through the 286, PM me or hit me up on the MillSounds Instagram. Iām doing a goofy promotion for pretty cheap, just looking for more stuff to run through it and get to know it betterā¦ Hope itās ok to post here, I donāt want to get in the habit of promoting stuff.
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Post by kelk on Sept 3, 2023 8:36:07 GMT -6
Be sure to try dynamic mics with the Coils. I've done entire projects just with dynamics because they sound so cool through those preamps. It was an ear opening experience for me. I was like, man dynamics can sound this good? This!! In a sense Coil preamps are cheap in that they made me love all my mediocre dynamics.. It turns them into something you actually want to listen to. |
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Post by bricejchandler on Sept 3, 2023 9:03:47 GMT -6
Be sure to try dynamic mics with the Coils. I've done entire projects just with dynamics because they sound so cool through those preamps. It was an ear opening experience for me. I was like, man dynamics can sound this good? This!! In a sense Coil preamps are cheap in that they made me love all my mediocre dynamics.. It turns them into something you actually want to listen to. I'm working on an EP. Acoustic sm57- 286 into 70 Vocals RE16 - 286 into 70 Drums Kick D20 - CA70 Sn SM7 - CA70 OH D24 - CA286 Egits SM7 - CA70 Bass Di'd Through the 70. Horns M88 - CA70 Everybody's really loving the sounds. Nothing Lofi about the sound as some people think when there are no condensers around |
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Post by andersmv on Sept 3, 2023 10:51:22 GMT -6
This!! In a sense Coil preamps are cheap in that they made me love all my mediocre dynamics.. It turns them into something you actually want to listen to. I'm working on an EP. Acoustic sm57- 286 into 70 Vocals RE16 - 286 into 70 Drums Kick D20 - CA70 Sn SM7 - CA70 OH D24 - CA286 Egits SM7 - CA70 Bass Di'd Through the 70. Horns M88 - CA70 Everybody's really loving the sounds. Nothing Lofi about the sound as some people think when there are no condensers around Tell me more about running the 286 into the 70. Are you running both at mic level because you need more gain, or hitting the 70 at line? |
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Post by sparkey on Sept 3, 2023 11:39:53 GMT -6
I bet a sennheiser 441 would sound great with tg ca70 on guitar amp
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Post by bricejchandler on Sept 3, 2023 13:30:44 GMT -6
I'm working on an EP. Acoustic sm57- 286 into 70 Vocals RE16 - 286 into 70 Drums Kick D20 - CA70 Sn SM7 - CA70 OH D24 - CA286 Egits SM7 - CA70 Bass Di'd Through the 70. Horns M88 - CA70 Everybody's really loving the sounds. Nothing Lofi about the sound as some people think when there are no condensers around Tell me more about running the 286 into the 70. Are you running both at mic level because you need more gain, or hitting the 70 at line? No rules! sometimes the other way around, though my default seems to be 286 mic preamp into 70 line level. I was recording a singer a while back, 286 into 70, had to repatch a couple of things and forgot to patch the 70 back in. The singer was like " what happened to the vocal sound? it's way smaller " It was a huge difference, there's something really awesome with dynamics driving the 286 into the 70. The 70 by itself can sound awesome too, I did a couple tracks with a singer Beta58-CA70, sounded really cool. With my 47 clone, I usually don't have the 286 going into the 70 with vocals as I find it's often too much. |
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Post by andersmv on Sept 3, 2023 14:17:41 GMT -6
Tell me more about running the 286 into the 70. Are you running both at mic level because you need more gain, or hitting the 70 at line? No rules! sometimes the other way around, though my default seems to be 286 mic preamp into 70 line level. I was recording a singer a while back, 286 into 70, had to repatch a couple of things and forgot to patch the 70 back in. The singer was like " what happened to the vocal sound? it's way smaller " It was a huge difference, there's something really awesome with dynamics driving the 286 into the 70. The 70 by itself can sound awesome too, I did a couple tracks with a singer Beta58-CA70, sounded really cool. With my 47 clone, I usually don't have the 286 going into the 70 with vocals as I find it's often too much. I've got some free time tonight, I was going to play around with feeding the two into each other. Wasn't sure if you had found some combo's that worked better. I'm really curious to mess around with my old 1932 RCA ribbon mic, feeding one into the other with both at mic level and comparing that with my TRP preamp going into each. Will have to grab an sm57 and mess around as well. |
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Post by bricejchandler on Sept 3, 2023 14:33:41 GMT -6
No rules! sometimes the other way around, though my default seems to be 286 mic preamp into 70 line level. I was recording a singer a while back, 286 into 70, had to repatch a couple of things and forgot to patch the 70 back in. The singer was like " what happened to the vocal sound? it's way smaller " It was a huge difference, there's something really awesome with dynamics driving the 286 into the 70. The 70 by itself can sound awesome too, I did a couple tracks with a singer Beta58-CA70, sounded really cool. With my 47 clone, I usually don't have the 286 going into the 70 with vocals as I find it's often too much. I've got some free time tonight, I was going to play around with feeding the two into each other. Wasn't sure if you had found some combo's that worked better. I'm really curious to mess around with my old 1932 RCA ribbon mic, feeding one into the other with both at mic level and comparing that with my TRP preamp going into each. Will have to grab an sm57 and mess around as well. Iād start with the 286 into the 70 for sure. Iād say thatās the one I use most of the time. Then the 70 is in mic or line mode depending how much I want to thicken up and drive the signal. You can get some interesting things going with the negative feedbacks interacting with each other |
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Post by Darren Boling on Sept 6, 2023 10:48:36 GMT -6
I hadn't checked over at the other place lately, does anybody know what the current Coil status is? CA70's still a long wait?
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Post by bricejchandler on Sept 7, 2023 1:16:23 GMT -6
I hadn't checked over at the other place lately, does anybody know what the current Coil status is? CA70's still a long wait? I've been told at least 4 months by a dealer friend. |
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Post by andersmv on Sept 7, 2023 6:41:47 GMT -6
Thereās a couple of dealers with stock I think. Check with Vintage King, pretty sure they have 286ās at least.
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Post by lowlou on Sept 7, 2023 8:57:29 GMT -6
I'll soon get my second 286 from KMR audio, but it was the last one.
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Post by deaconblues on Sept 7, 2023 9:15:30 GMT -6
I hadn't checked over at the other place lately, does anybody know what the current Coil status is? CA70's still a long wait? I was told 6-8 weeks on PS6 systems. |
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